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hello guys thank you for

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watching the disclosure team youtube

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channel i completely messed that up

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happy saturday everyone um

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this is going to be a great conversation

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um we've got a few panel guests jumping

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in tonight so let's bring them in one by

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one first i'd like to introduce

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um

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you guys know this guy if you been

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anywhere on my instagram page you know

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we do these kind of things all the time

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on instagram lives please welcome

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andy nyu ap discussion what's up brother

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what's up bro how are you i'm good man

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how are you i'm good

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i've got the ec going now okay yeah i

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can hear it a little bit but it's all

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good yeah

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i've got mine on as well i've got a fan

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next up guys um we have got a new friend

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that i've made recently someone who i

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think we all have a lot of respect for

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for the work that he's been doing so

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please welcome mr chris leto

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hi victoria how's it going

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how are you how are you great yeah great

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to be here

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good thank you so much for joining us

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and and then finally um this gentleman

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is going to talk about a uap that he

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filmed we're going to go through the

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footage so without further ado

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my newest friend

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mr nigel benton nigel thank you so much

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for joining us

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thanks for the invite i mean completely

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unexpected and um here we are so

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funny how things turn out isn't it

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when i took the film so which was a

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considerable time ago

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well let's jump pretty much let's just

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jump straight into it i'll just give a

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quick shout out to everyone that's

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watching live thank you so much for

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joining us

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love you guys always joining me live so

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thank you for that if you've got any

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questions ask away i'll try and look out

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for them um so yeah nigel why don't you

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talk us through this video and give us a

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brief

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overview of it and then we can actually

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get into it if you want right or should

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i play it and talk about it at the same

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time what do you think

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either way don't really mind i mean

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essentially this is this is 15 years old

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um this this was a year before the first

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iphone came out so there's no you know

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fortunately it was it was filmed on a

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sony handycam so the actual quality of

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it considering isn't that bad and i

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think the iphone would have been

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considerably worse at that time

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so essentially it was just complete

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day 24th of august

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um literally sitting in the back garden

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beautiful clear blue skies little fluffy

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clouds here and there

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reclining in the sunshine and happened

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to just look slightly behind myself and

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spotted

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a star literally just

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the same as you'd see any star at night

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but this was in the blue sky so i

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thought that's not right you know

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that what is that so i just sat and

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watched it for a minute too it didn't

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move it didn't disappear so i thought

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i've got to get this on camera so i

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grabbed the camera

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and that's where it starts off on the

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that's when i found out how terribly

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difficult it is to focus it on a star

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you can see with your eyes but through

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the viewfinder you know through

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nowhere near you know trying to actually

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find something to reference it with uh

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and then eventually zoom in but didn't

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manage to do it of course then you get

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shakes because

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you know you're magnifying it so much so

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your excitement is making it worse than

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it it should be but um

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fortunately i was managed to you know

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have a presence of mine to take a

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shot of the clock in the kitchen so we

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had a time and i knew what the date was

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because i was working from home so

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and that's really where it goes on and

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then filmed it for probably around half

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an hour in total during which time it

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barely moved i mean it probably moved

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because i got other stuff to do but it

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it just gone so what actually happened

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to it i don't know

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it's just one of these things that

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i just managed to grab

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i didn't really do anything with it

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because i didn't know what to do with it

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chat with andy and dave felsh yourself

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and it was dave falsh's flir video of

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the unexpected

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object that they filmed and i looked at

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that and said

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well that's what i got on camera but

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mine's in the

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visual range not in the infrared

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so that's why i contacted chris and said

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well what do i do with this would you

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guys like to look at it and he said

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we'll just post it so i posted it i

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threw together a video posted it and

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that was a week ago and here we are so

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15 years and a week

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awesome i love this kind of way of doing

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things that people have been sitting on

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things for so long and now that they're

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seeing more people talking about it more

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videos coming out more people willing to

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analyze it yeah i think it's fantastic

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so chris what did you think when you

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first saw the video or got contacted by

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nigel

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yeah well i i saw his message and i

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thought like i don't know what what what

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i like him to do you know and i think

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the best is

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if he just puts it on youtube you know i

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anything that's on youtube essentially

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right without any copyright issues

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and everybody has at least everybody

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that's watching youtube probably has a

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youtube account or something

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but it really is just really easy to

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just post it you know nigel uh

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and i was like hey if you're willing to

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post it you know if you want to put this

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out public um put it up on youtube you

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know and then i can just reference it

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direct which is what i did it's super

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easy and i made that video uh today so i

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released it

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um today on on my channel

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nice man so yeah and then i went to it

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and we'll show it here exactly what he's

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saying i mean it looks yeah we'll look

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at it right now if you want to let's do

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yeah you got it lined up on the screen

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yeah that's ready to go

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yeah so here's his

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youtube i guess uh

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yeah nigel ben one video man he started

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got a new youtuber on the scene

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i'll be subscribing i'll be subscribing

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subscribe yeah

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uh so here it is you know it's uh 20 uh

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almost 20 minutes so i'll just go

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through it kind of quickly to the main

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points okay um but i would you know i'd

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say everybody that's interested to go

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watch it it's a really good example

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uh nigel you know you're also

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importantly you're talking through the

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through the video you know actually we

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yeah it's it as a you know fighter

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pilots when we debrief uh i i you know

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i'll talk all the time you know into the

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video like i see him doing this i see

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him doing this you know that's a mess up

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anything to cue the tape so that you can

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and actually we have to we need sound to

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cure our tapes anyway so you always find

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something common so i like how you talk

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through the tapes you know i keep seeing

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all these videos online

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and it's just like this crazy thing

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flying

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yeah the other thing i don't like as

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that kind of points out to me anyway

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that it's fake is it's kind of like well

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why were you there

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filming that bit you know that yeah

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you've got an object in here but then

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you go over here

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you never did you're not excited come

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around and look over there it's kind of

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it's over here so why are you moving

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around and there's no commentary you

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probably fake probably yeah exactly yeah

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and but you in it's would look kind of

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so real on yours so you give this good

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commentary i think you basically just

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covered it um

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as we go through you know like you

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mentioned it's just hard to focus on

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this thing right so you're trying to

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focus on it here

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we can even turn up your sound so you

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yeah i mean that's just crazy to me you

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it's like exactly like dave vultures

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just to give it a little bit more

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context it was around

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it wasn't directly above but it was

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around a 75 80 degrees elevation

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so it was it was steep and that's why it

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got really painful in the neck and the

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arms trying to hold camera steady and

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film it

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yeah and this this isn't the kind of the

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kind of camera that would pick up

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a distant planet in the daytime because

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of the quality of the camera it's really

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just a small handy cam for

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everyday use isn't it yeah yeah so and i

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like this as well yeah this is really

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good because i mean if i'm taking a if

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you know if i'm filming a ufo hopefully

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i'm like i selfie myself in the camera

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you know we should just just for fun

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this you should be selfing yourself in

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the you know with the ufo like here i am

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everybody you know

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that pairs you man and and like all that

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stuff i think makes it harder i mean i'm

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no video expert or

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you know video deep fake guy expert but

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i think it makes it more difficult right

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you know so he films here so we see it's

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him we can see the type of camera

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um and then he looks through the window

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uh at the clock you know that was so

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awesome i was like yes you know it's so

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so good such a good idea that's great

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yeah

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and then he goes back out so

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the other thing i really liked so he

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time stamped it i put on my video

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um

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you know if you can timestamp it i was

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thinking with like another another phone

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you know if you put up your phone and

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like just search

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like gmt or something or just even film

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anything that says you know your phone

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yeah you guys just spread my text but

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i think that even

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i think that makes it harder to to to

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fake as well you know because now they

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got to deep fake that thing you know all

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these things are gonna have to be fake

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right the the more context you can get

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in the video

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uh the harder i think it is to deep to

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fake it i would assume you know i'm not

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no but you know

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so many people just don't know how to

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record

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i make fun of that all the time because

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it's not that difficult but they get i

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guess they don't really think of what to

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do at the moment so they just sit there

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and film you know what i mean it's hard

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man i i would say go and try and film

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like an airliner or an airplane

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like just recently i someone sent me

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incredible footage

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but it was only about five seconds long

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and i'm like why did you do that

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and it was legit i mean legit i didn't

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post it because it was so short but it

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was a triangle craft that flew right

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over her she got scared and ran inside

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and stopped recording it was a perfect

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triangle and it was and it was lighting

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up every single spot was lighting up on

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each corner and she ran inside because

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exactly and uh i guess the the other

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thing he does really just uh these two

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things i think and you have a good ufo

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video is he uh anchors it so he

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basically films the ground

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uh and then he hands up so from there we

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can go with the direction from where

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he's at or if you i mean if you have a

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compass i guess that would be perfect

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but chances are you're not gonna have a

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compass um

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but you could i guess in front of your

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iphone if you have enough time another

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iphone right you can bring up your

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compass that but really we just need you

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know a direction to where it's going uh

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and then a time uh and then

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the really the powerful thing is so so

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nigel had this what from 15 years ago

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right yeah but imagine there's somebody

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near this town

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that just randomly happened to do the

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same thing right yeah so now now we have

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two points and now we can kind of get an

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idea how far away this thing is

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uh because if you look later let me see

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here at this point

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um

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there's a plane that comes along

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oh nice

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can you explain that because you were

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having a hard time finding it right

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nigel if i remember yeah i mean in the

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early in the early parts of the video

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um

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there was quite a bit of cloud it wasn't

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heavy cloud but there was a bit coming

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across so i could kind of relate to that

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but towards the end

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it was

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so this little star that i was trying to

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focus on

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every time i tried to zoom in i've got

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no reference point

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and then

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actually on the video you can hear the

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jet

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kind of in the background it's as it's

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kind of coming across you can hear the

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sounds coming

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so i thought oh yes there's a jet coming

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and

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looking up i could see it was actually

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going to pass pretty much where

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my dot was um so i just followed the jet

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because that's the only option i got

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really um and it was great because it

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also

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kind of gives you some relation to size

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i mean

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obviously not side by side i would

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suggest that if it is uap then it's

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below

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the flight path if it's not the uap

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it must be huge and above the

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flight path so from a scale perspective

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in my mind if it's lower it's still

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pretty big

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but if it's higher it's got to be huge

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and maybe the jets would the jet would

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have seen it because

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you know the way the windows are on the

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jet you

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possibly have seen it but then again

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maybe if the angle is too steep the jet

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wouldn't have seen it unless it was from

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a long distance and then it would have

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been a tiny star that they probably

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wouldn't have noticed

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i only notice it because i happen to

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stare at it long enough i think

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and did it move at all i mean i know you

405
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mentioned earlier yeah it didn't move as

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it didn't make any movement

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but over a period of time it probably

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traveled

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maybe you know visually i don't know

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maybe a foot across the sky if you know

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what i mean in that space

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but i mean i think you can almost tell

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that it does move slightly across but

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you can't see the motion you know there

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is no actual motion um no indication of

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how it's moving or anything

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um my only i mean my only kind of as you

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go through the eye what what is it as

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you're filming i thought you know

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obviously i felt balloon first thing i

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thought star

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but stars no during the day

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on a

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full sunlight day on

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in august it's no it can't be uh yeah i

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mean it's opposite the sun so

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then it's got to be reflection in my

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mind so it's reflecting back

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um

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just looking at this comment here yeah

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it was if it was venus or mars he would

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have not lost it it still would have

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been there apparently he went and looked

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up again and it was gone so i don't

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think venus could just move out the way

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i don't think venus is ever in that in

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the northeast of the sky it's always the

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other end isn't it it's always southwest

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kind of

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i think

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somebody mentioned earlier was it could

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it have been venus but i think the

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elevation is far too high yeah i think

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venus whenever we see it is kind of it's

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just amazing and it's low level and it's

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kind of towards the south

447
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yeah in the middle of the day too yeah

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and then you wouldn't see it the light i

449
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mean that's why you can't see those

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parts in the daylight because it drowns

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everything out

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so so to my mind it's reflected light so

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it's not it's not it's not a star it

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would have to be a supernova to be

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visible you know and they know about

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that

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sorry nigel you said in your video you

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write in here that you can't you know

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you called your wife but she didn't

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answer you left a message that was

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awesome you know yeah and also my

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business partner um he lives

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kind of or lived back then kind of seven

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miles east

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almost directly east

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um and i phoned him and said can you

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have a look outside look kind of

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northwest can you see this star and he

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said he couldn't see anything

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um

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now

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i've been thinking about this a little

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bit if he was directly to the east

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and

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if this object wasn't

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so incredibly high or far away

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maybe he didn't get the reflection you

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know

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if if it's a ball it's only going to

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reflect the front face the back face

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won't be visible at all and this thing

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was literally a pin prick in the sky you

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know it was a star so it wouldn't you

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wouldn't have been able to see it had it

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been

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literally kind of above me there

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i think from the side even from behind

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if you were further north say i mean

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if you're in sheffield

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you wouldn't have been able to see it

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because the sunlight would have

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you know

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blinded it out it would just it would

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wipe it out completely so to me it

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it has to be reflected light off an

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object and the only other thing that

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ever came to mind was could it be

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geostationary satellite

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but even then again to see it in in

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daylight it's just i can't see it

501
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i can't see it being a weather balloon

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because it's in it's in a it's a

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commercial flight path i mean these jets

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recently i've been looking using radar

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00:17:40,390 --> 00:17:38,960
um you know the flight radar 24 yeah

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jets that go over and they're flying

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between 30 and 40 000 feet yeah it's the

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same route that they fly they were

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flying back

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in in

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2006 so

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you wouldn't want stuff like that

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floating around um above a commercial

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so

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from airliners as well you know they

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take the videos from airliner so it's

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you could almost do the same thing but

518
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your your time stamp has to be a lot

519
00:18:12,789 --> 00:18:11,039
more accurate i don't know can we tell

520
00:18:14,630 --> 00:18:12,799
exactly where a plane is you know or can

521
00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:14,640
you get how accurate is that

522
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so chris did you analyze this much

523
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further did you zoom in on multiple

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points and things like that or no no i

525
00:18:27,990 --> 00:18:25,840
haven't i just saw it uh i thought

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really what was

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best to learn from it is we need more

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more

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points of points of you know multiple

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sources

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absolutely

532
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i think that's a great point and also

533
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the fact that the things you mentioned

534
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with the way nigel went about filming it

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with filming himself filming the clock

536
00:18:46,710 --> 00:18:44,799
all those little extra data points that

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00:18:48,630 --> 00:18:46,720
really are important to

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to just filming sightings i know it's

539
00:18:52,630 --> 00:18:50,559
hard in the moment or i i can imagine

540
00:18:55,350 --> 00:18:52,640
it's hard in the moment i've

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00:18:58,630 --> 00:18:55,360
never seen anything so i can't speak to

542
00:19:00,549 --> 00:18:58,640
that um so yeah no that's that's super

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00:19:01,909 --> 00:19:00,559
interesting so nigel thank you so much

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00:19:06,870 --> 00:19:01,919
for bringing that forward i really

545
00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:08,470
yeah i think it's you have to be ready

546
00:19:12,710 --> 00:19:10,240
it's one of those you know maybe once in

547
00:19:15,029 --> 00:19:12,720
a lifetime type things it's so rare

548
00:19:16,630 --> 00:19:15,039
yeah that's when it happened yeah yeah

549
00:19:18,230 --> 00:19:16,640
when good footage comes out you're just

550
00:19:20,710 --> 00:19:18,240
not ready that's why a lot of times it's

551
00:19:22,150 --> 00:19:20,720
such so crappy because it just happens

552
00:19:23,669 --> 00:19:22,160
right then you're like holy crap a lot

553
00:19:24,630 --> 00:19:23,679
of times um

554
00:19:26,789 --> 00:19:24,640
people who

555
00:19:28,549 --> 00:19:26,799
like plane enthusiasts that are watching

556
00:19:30,310 --> 00:19:28,559
planes end up catching as they're

557
00:19:31,669 --> 00:19:30,320
tracking the plane they end up getting

558
00:19:33,510 --> 00:19:31,679
sidetracked because they'll see for

559
00:19:35,990 --> 00:19:33,520
example like an object like that

560
00:19:37,909 --> 00:19:36,000
and you know they'll catch it but um

561
00:19:39,190 --> 00:19:37,919
you know the authentic ones usually no

562
00:19:39,909 --> 00:19:39,200
one's prepared for you know what i'm

563
00:19:41,510 --> 00:19:39,919
saying

564
00:19:42,710 --> 00:19:41,520
yeah because a lot of people the first

565
00:19:45,270 --> 00:19:42,720
thing they want to do is they want to

566
00:19:46,310 --> 00:19:45,280
get it as clear as they can so they zoom

567
00:19:48,470 --> 00:19:46,320
and of course if you've got a bit of

568
00:19:50,070 --> 00:19:48,480
handshake on a full zoom man that thing

569
00:19:52,390 --> 00:19:50,080
looks like it's jumping around all over

570
00:19:54,150 --> 00:19:52,400
the place like so many people don't get

571
00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:54,160
that you know that's why i get so

572
00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:55,760
frustrated with that because it's like

573
00:19:58,470 --> 00:19:57,360
when you're zooming in

574
00:20:00,070 --> 00:19:58,480
all the way

575
00:20:01,669 --> 00:20:00,080
any little movement you make is going to

576
00:20:02,789 --> 00:20:01,679
make this thing jump all over the screen

577
00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:02,799
yeah

578
00:20:06,710 --> 00:20:04,880
so unless you have a tripod sitting

579
00:20:08,230 --> 00:20:06,720
there and you managed to focus in on it

580
00:20:11,110 --> 00:20:08,240
without you know that's the only way

581
00:20:13,350 --> 00:20:11,120
you're going to get a decent stabilized

582
00:20:14,710 --> 00:20:13,360
you know uh recording but

583
00:20:16,470 --> 00:20:14,720
yeah just

584
00:20:17,669 --> 00:20:16,480
no one has a tripod lying around just

585
00:20:19,590 --> 00:20:17,679
because they're going to feel let me

586
00:20:21,750 --> 00:20:19,600
just pull this out of my pocket

587
00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:21,760
i'm ready at the very end of the video

588
00:20:32,710 --> 00:20:24,080
the last comment i make is i wish i had

589
00:20:35,110 --> 00:20:34,070
would you have done anything different

590
00:20:39,029 --> 00:20:35,120
uh

591
00:20:41,029 --> 00:20:39,039
seeing i was looking at a cia document

592
00:20:45,029 --> 00:20:41,039
someone uh martin sent me actually from

593
00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:45,039
duapr uh how to how to photograph a a

594
00:20:51,190 --> 00:20:49,120
ufo right and step one is uh manually

595
00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:51,200
focus it to infinity

596
00:20:55,029 --> 00:20:53,840
i was surprised by that i don't know uh

597
00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:55,039
you know would that have helped you

598
00:20:58,390 --> 00:20:56,640
because i saw you focusing in and out a

599
00:21:00,310 --> 00:20:58,400
lot but it seems like you also went past

600
00:21:02,230 --> 00:21:00,320
it right so

601
00:21:03,590 --> 00:21:02,240
i wonder if infinity you know you didn't

602
00:21:06,470 --> 00:21:03,600
get there if that would have helped

603
00:21:08,950 --> 00:21:06,480
somehow yeah i mean the only the only um

604
00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:08,960
focus sort of zoom was that

605
00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:10,880
you know it's just literally a push

606
00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:11,919
to go in

607
00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:14,320
zoom in push to zoom out

608
00:21:17,909 --> 00:21:16,400
i think there is a digital zoom feature

609
00:21:19,830 --> 00:21:17,919
on it somewhere but

610
00:21:22,070 --> 00:21:19,840
in the you know that was i didn't have

611
00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:22,080
time to set that up really

612
00:21:26,789 --> 00:21:23,840
um

613
00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:26,799
i think if you know

614
00:21:30,549 --> 00:21:28,320
if i've had more people that i could

615
00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:30,559
have called maybe you know i i couldn't

616
00:21:34,870 --> 00:21:33,039
think at the time i mean i

617
00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:34,880
might i've got a younger brother uh but

618
00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:36,960
he was working in

619
00:21:40,230 --> 00:21:38,640
derby at the time he could have done it

620
00:21:42,390 --> 00:21:40,240
but i didn't have his

621
00:21:43,430 --> 00:21:42,400
number i mean he didn't have

622
00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:43,440
you know

623
00:21:46,470 --> 00:21:44,880
the same iphones had to come out i think

624
00:21:49,350 --> 00:21:46,480
were on nokias in those days and i'm not

625
00:21:51,669 --> 00:21:49,360
even sure if he had one so um

626
00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:51,679
it's one of those things you know

627
00:21:55,190 --> 00:21:54,000
in hindsight i wish i'd got a bigger

628
00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:55,200
list of people that i could have

629
00:21:59,350 --> 00:21:56,480
contacted

630
00:22:01,270 --> 00:21:59,360
um and i guess you know unless by some

631
00:22:03,350 --> 00:22:01,280
fluke again

632
00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:03,360
it was nokia phones and whatever back

633
00:22:06,789 --> 00:22:04,400
then so

634
00:22:08,070 --> 00:22:06,799
unless somebody did happen to have a

635
00:22:11,270 --> 00:22:08,080
handycam

636
00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:11,280
and did happen to see it back then

637
00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:14,400
and film it then you know maybe

638
00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:15,760
well there's a chance that they're going

639
00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:17,440
to see this you know but having said

640
00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:18,320
that

641
00:22:21,669 --> 00:22:19,440
you never know

642
00:22:23,909 --> 00:22:21,679
every time i think of what i you know

643
00:22:26,710 --> 00:22:23,919
the story i told vinnie and chris it's

644
00:22:28,710 --> 00:22:26,720
like oh my god if i would have had

645
00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:28,720
some kind of recording equipment with me

646
00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:29,760
at the time

647
00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:32,320
i would have had a freaking

648
00:22:36,549 --> 00:22:34,480
video that would have blown everybody

649
00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:36,559
away like it just every time i think

650
00:22:39,750 --> 00:22:38,400
about it it's like why did i not have

651
00:22:43,270 --> 00:22:39,760
anything but at the time there was no

652
00:22:47,830 --> 00:22:46,149
i mean one thing i did think of this the

653
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:47,840
other day actually just

654
00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:50,400
i think one thing that i could have done

655
00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:52,880
of course is get in my car

656
00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:55,840
and go drive five miles east or five

657
00:22:58,710 --> 00:22:57,120
miles west

658
00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:58,720
and see if i could find it still you

659
00:23:03,909 --> 00:22:59,679
know

660
00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:03,919
would be my dual source if you like

661
00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:05,360
yeah that was on the list that was on

662
00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:08,400
the cia list as well it was uh

663
00:23:10,630 --> 00:23:09,280
yeah

664
00:23:12,470 --> 00:23:10,640
the only thing i really thought were it

665
00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:12,480
was was good it was like take a lot of

666
00:23:18,149 --> 00:23:16,320
photographs uh and if it's if it's close

667
00:23:20,070 --> 00:23:18,159
um then you want to move around they

668
00:23:22,470 --> 00:23:20,080
said 40 to 60 feet is enough right if

669
00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:22,480
it's close to get different angles

670
00:23:26,549 --> 00:23:24,640
but then it's far away it doesn't help

671
00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:26,559
to move around you but it does help to

672
00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:28,480
get in your car and it said go at least

673
00:23:33,909 --> 00:23:30,880
half of a mile

674
00:23:35,909 --> 00:23:33,919
and then you can do a triangulation yeah

675
00:23:37,669 --> 00:23:35,919
yeah but we chair fly a lot in the air

676
00:23:39,830 --> 00:23:37,679
force you know um you just mentally go

677
00:23:41,909 --> 00:23:39,840
through what you're gonna do uh or the

678
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:41,919
best is you go practice it right

679
00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:43,440
like really just practicing stuff

680
00:23:47,430 --> 00:23:46,080
actually it works but nobody i i hope

681
00:23:48,789 --> 00:23:47,440
somebody out there is like actually

682
00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:48,799
gonna go and practice you know get

683
00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:50,559
because i charge my camera

684
00:23:53,750 --> 00:23:52,400
one out all right and then try and get

685
00:23:57,990 --> 00:23:53,760
try and get some

686
00:24:01,750 --> 00:23:58,000
plain videos you know good luck you know

687
00:24:02,789 --> 00:24:01,760
see if it works yeah yeah yeah

688
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:02,799
i'm just gonna give a shout out to

689
00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:04,480
healthy mbs thank you for the five

690
00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:05,919
dollars and you've got a correct

691
00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:08,080
question for chris so chris based on

692
00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:10,000
your experience with usaf fighter jets

693
00:24:14,230 --> 00:24:11,919
and related systems have you been asked

694
00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:14,240
to help analyze or investigate uap type

695
00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:17,120
events for any organization

696
00:24:21,669 --> 00:24:19,520
um yes uh

697
00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:21,679
a group a group of the scu asked me they

698
00:24:26,710 --> 00:24:23,200
were trying to put together some project

699
00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:26,720
i i'm not sure what it is um but later

700
00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:28,480
in september i believe is when they said

701
00:24:33,669 --> 00:24:30,640
they they'd uh

702
00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:33,679
reconvene so just a little bit um i'm

703
00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:35,120
quite new still you know obviously

704
00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:36,720
people have a lot of they already have

705
00:24:40,950 --> 00:24:38,960
their schedules full and everything so

706
00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:40,960
uh i would like to ask some more pilots

707
00:24:43,990 --> 00:24:42,640
though i haven't really

708
00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:44,000
tried to even contact my friends or

709
00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:45,600
whatever you know like what are they

710
00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:47,600
doing my facebook account got cut off

711
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:48,960
you know i don't know if like

712
00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:50,960
it's like planned or something but uh i

713
00:24:56,070 --> 00:24:53,600
think it just i couldn't access this

714
00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:56,080
this was the six weeks ago and i can and

715
00:24:59,750 --> 00:24:58,480
like facebook will not answer my calls

716
00:25:00,630 --> 00:24:59,760
back you know and i'm like hey my

717
00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:00,640
account's

718
00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:03,039
not working i can't get into it so i

719
00:25:05,110 --> 00:25:03,760
don't know

720
00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:05,120
they'll be like this guy's talking we

721
00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:22,950
yeah

722
00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:24,880
that is so bad like i'm posting probably

723
00:25:27,990 --> 00:25:26,960
once a day at the moment just because

724
00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:28,000
what's the point if they're going to

725
00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:30,080
treat us like that you know what's going

726
00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:32,640
on i don't know on instagram yeah you

727
00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:34,240
you because we have like business

728
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:35,919
accounts you'll you can check all your

729
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:38,080
statistics for like your reach and and

730
00:25:41,190 --> 00:25:39,760
things like that and it's just dive

731
00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:41,200
bombed and people be like well maybe

732
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:43,440
it's just people aren't interested but

733
00:25:45,909 --> 00:25:44,640
i've been doing it for long enough to

734
00:25:47,909 --> 00:25:45,919
know when

735
00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:47,919
things like that happen

736
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:48,960
yeah

737
00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:50,559
and you get a steady flow of traffic and

738
00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:52,000
then all of a sudden it's just like

739
00:25:55,269 --> 00:25:53,760
non-existent you're like what

740
00:25:56,549 --> 00:25:55,279
what's going on

741
00:25:58,789 --> 00:25:56,559
and that's when you that's when you know

742
00:26:00,549 --> 00:25:58,799
that something's someone's messing

743
00:26:03,029 --> 00:26:00,559
messing around on the other side

744
00:26:06,310 --> 00:26:03,039
yeah changing the algorithm

745
00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:06,320
it is it is the algorithm which

746
00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:07,279
yeah

747
00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:08,720
and it sucks because they consider it

748
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:11,440
you know fake news type of crap so when

749
00:26:14,789 --> 00:26:12,960
you post things like this i guess it

750
00:26:16,630 --> 00:26:14,799
pops up and or you know and they're in

751
00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:16,640
the algorithm it sets something off and

752
00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:17,600
then

753
00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:19,360
hits you with like uh some kind of like

754
00:26:22,390 --> 00:26:20,720
um

755
00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:22,400
like a warning i don't know

756
00:26:25,590 --> 00:26:23,679
the thing is i've never had a warning or

757
00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:25,600
anything i've just

758
00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:27,279
had these issues but i i i'm not going

759
00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:29,360
to dwell on it man you know

760
00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:31,760
it is what it is you know

761
00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:33,360
are you going to talk about uh san

762
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:42,710
right now that's awesome yeah i'll i'll

763
00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:45,520
talk yeah so i'll go i'll go back a few

764
00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:47,840
weeks i was aware that san marino event

765
00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:50,480
was coming up i knew that lou and chris

766
00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:53,039
mellon were flying out to do a talk and

767
00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:54,559
the first thing that comes up in your

768
00:26:58,149 --> 00:26:56,400
head is why are they

769
00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:58,159
traveling all that way to talk for an

770
00:27:02,070 --> 00:27:00,240
hour or so and it's all happening over

771
00:27:05,029 --> 00:27:02,080
zoom and stuff these days there's got to

772
00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:05,039
be something else going on now it's been

773
00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:07,600
speculated for a while now that

774
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:10,799
because it's an isa conference um who

775
00:27:15,269 --> 00:27:12,720
are at the forefront of pushing the

776
00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:15,279
subject into the united nations i

777
00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:16,240
thought there's got to be some

778
00:27:19,029 --> 00:27:17,679
correlation there

779
00:27:21,750 --> 00:27:19,039
and it's looking like that it's going

780
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:21,760
that way definitely and that san marino

781
00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:23,760
may be the country to take it to the

782
00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:25,279
united nations

783
00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:26,480
i think we're going to find out more

784
00:27:31,909 --> 00:27:28,399
information in the coming

785
00:27:33,750 --> 00:27:31,919
days weeks but um so max me and max

786
00:27:35,669 --> 00:27:33,760
spoke and we're like dude let's go to

787
00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:35,679
san marino road trip it

788
00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:37,600
i was like yeah i'd love to realized

789
00:27:42,789 --> 00:27:39,120
when it was

790
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:42,799
couldn't make it so max bless him drove

791
00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:45,760
from holland to germany

792
00:27:51,590 --> 00:27:49,600
from germany to italy um and yeah met

793
00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:51,600
met with lou and

794
00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:53,679
luckily had him on instagram live

795
00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:56,159
earlier for five minutes that was great

796
00:27:59,909 --> 00:27:58,000
he's gonna talk to him tomorrow as well

797
00:28:01,909 --> 00:27:59,919
isn't he he's gonna join max again

798
00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:01,919
tomorrow yeah and that was lou's

799
00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:04,399
suggestion apparently it was yeah yeah

800
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:05,200
so

801
00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:06,880
yeah it's exciting man but i've got it's

802
00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:08,000
good thing is i've got an interview with

803
00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:09,440
lou in

804
00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:11,600
eight days on my channel so i'll re i'll

805
00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:13,520
get a good hour if not longer to really

806
00:28:17,350 --> 00:28:15,360
throw the questions at him

807
00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:17,360
and you i guess i don't know much about

808
00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:18,080
like

809
00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:20,320
again i'm still so new but bring in this

810
00:28:23,590 --> 00:28:22,240
to the u.n is that

811
00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:23,600
do you think that's the best way to go

812
00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:25,600
or it is because

813
00:28:30,149 --> 00:28:28,480
it will draw in so many other countries

814
00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:30,159
smaller countries that have never had

815
00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:32,399
any chance of talking about the subject

816
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:34,080
when coming up against the us who are

817
00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:36,480
kind of holding all the big or a lot of

818
00:28:40,149 --> 00:28:39,360
the answers let's say so if we get a a

819
00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:40,159
you know

820
00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:42,320
a conglomerate of many many smaller

821
00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:43,679
countries coming together through the

822
00:28:46,389 --> 00:28:44,720
u.n

823
00:28:48,149 --> 00:28:46,399
then we can get transparency coming out

824
00:28:49,590 --> 00:28:48,159
from that angle and the pentagon and all

825
00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:49,600
them who are still

826
00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:51,039
playing games

827
00:28:57,190 --> 00:28:54,720
become super irrelevant all of a sudden

828
00:28:58,549 --> 00:28:57,200
so yeah it really does right once you go

829
00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:58,559
global

830
00:29:02,149 --> 00:29:00,000
yeah i think it becomes it becomes

831
00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:02,159
embarrassing for the for the states

832
00:29:05,669 --> 00:29:03,840
though doesn't it yeah the american

833
00:29:08,070 --> 00:29:05,679
government then because it's like now

834
00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:08,080
everybody's looking at them saying well

835
00:29:11,830 --> 00:29:10,000
huh what is it what is it

836
00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:11,840
give us some information please

837
00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:13,120
everybody

838
00:29:16,549 --> 00:29:14,799
wants to know and you're the one

839
00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:16,559
just going no there's nothing to see

840
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:17,919
nothing to see

841
00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:19,600
yeah there are people within the dod and

842
00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:21,120
the pentagon i believe who are on the

843
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:22,080
side of

844
00:29:25,269 --> 00:29:23,440
putting out the information but they're

845
00:29:26,710 --> 00:29:25,279
just getting stonewalled at the top at

846
00:29:28,149 --> 00:29:26,720
the very high levels from some of the

847
00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:28,159
let's say

848
00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:29,039
um

849
00:29:33,669 --> 00:29:31,679
the old gray hairs of the government who

850
00:29:35,669 --> 00:29:33,679
are still holding you know pulling all

851
00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:35,679
the strings and stuff but there are

852
00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:38,399
lower downs who are younger guys

853
00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:40,399
who want this to come out um

854
00:29:44,789 --> 00:29:43,039
so you know

855
00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:44,799
we'll see if they follow suit if the un

856
00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:46,240
get going

857
00:29:49,029 --> 00:29:47,919
maybe they'll panic and release stuff

858
00:29:51,430 --> 00:29:49,039
because they think well if the u.n are

859
00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:51,440
going to be just the disclosure

860
00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:53,120
group then

861
00:29:56,230 --> 00:29:54,640
we'll do it and then we'll be number one

862
00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:56,240
still i don't know

863
00:29:58,870 --> 00:29:58,000
you got to still ask yourself

864
00:30:00,549 --> 00:29:58,880
why

865
00:30:02,070 --> 00:30:00,559
so adamant about

866
00:30:04,789 --> 00:30:02,080
holding all of this information back

867
00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:04,799
still to this day like what what is the

868
00:30:10,630 --> 00:30:06,799
reason what is their reasoning like what

869
00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:10,640
do they know that they push so hard

870
00:30:14,549 --> 00:30:12,480
to not release anything and to keep

871
00:30:16,149 --> 00:30:14,559
denying it no matter what so that i mean

872
00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:16,159
it's got to be something pretty

873
00:30:20,549 --> 00:30:18,640
significant for them to you know

874
00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:20,559
go at it like this for god knows how

875
00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:24,080
many years and still now as close as we

876
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:26,080
you know the closest we've gotten is is

877
00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:28,480
is is in this you know time frame time

878
00:30:32,470 --> 00:30:30,799
period and still they push

879
00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:32,480
to not release anything so it makes you

880
00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:34,960
wonder what is it that they know

881
00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:36,799
you know and if we're really prepared to

882
00:30:39,029 --> 00:30:38,159
know

883
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:39,039
but the thing is it's going to be

884
00:30:43,110 --> 00:30:41,279
multiple things sorry

885
00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:43,120
that's one of the key things it's it's

886
00:30:49,269 --> 00:30:45,760
it's preparing people to

887
00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:49,279
accept a truth that they probably

888
00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:51,039
wouldn't easily accept you know there's

889
00:30:54,789 --> 00:30:52,480
a lot of people in the world that are

890
00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:54,799
highly religious that you know that have

891
00:31:14,070 --> 00:30:55,520
a

892
00:31:15,029 --> 00:31:14,080
nonsense

893
00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:15,039
um

894
00:31:18,630 --> 00:31:17,039
and i think i think any any you know any

895
00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:18,640
any government

896
00:31:22,470 --> 00:31:20,880
that has a lot of secrets that are going

897
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:22,480
to change the paradigm and change the

898
00:31:26,950 --> 00:31:24,559
way people think about religion think

899
00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:26,960
about you know afterlife think about

900
00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:28,240
origins

901
00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:30,720
it's it's a lot to consider um and you

902
00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:32,399
can see why they wouldn't want to let

903
00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:35,039
out a lot of information all in one go

904
00:31:39,909 --> 00:31:37,440
um so little leaks that just

905
00:31:42,149 --> 00:31:39,919
pertain towards technology maybe is

906
00:31:45,509 --> 00:31:42,159
acceptable but when you're talking about

907
00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:45,519
culture and philosophies and religion

908
00:31:49,509 --> 00:31:47,279
it's a whole different ballgame and i'm

909
00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:49,519
not sure governments are particularly

910
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:50,720
good at

911
00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:53,200
working for those sort of people

912
00:31:56,149 --> 00:31:54,640
we've got to remember though that

913
00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:56,159
religion for the last

914
00:31:59,509 --> 00:31:57,360
probably at least the last five years

915
00:32:02,070 --> 00:31:59,519
have spoken about their acceptance

916
00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:02,080
um if an extraterrestrial race was to

917
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:04,320
become known to them that they are

918
00:32:10,149 --> 00:32:07,440
equally a part of the children of god as

919
00:32:11,909 --> 00:32:10,159
the human human races so the acceptance

920
00:32:13,909 --> 00:32:11,919
seems to be there so i don't think they

921
00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:13,919
can just play the religion card as the

922
00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:15,919
the main reason it may play it apart and

923
00:32:19,269 --> 00:32:18,240
be an aspect of it but i think also

924
00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:19,279
what's

925
00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:21,200
good to acknowledge is that if the us

926
00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:22,720
government have known things as far back

927
00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:25,200
as the 40s with with an extraterrestrial

928
00:32:27,909 --> 00:32:26,240
race

929
00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:27,919
it certainly looks or there's evidence

930
00:32:30,870 --> 00:32:29,120
to point to the fact that there's

931
00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:30,880
multiple different

932
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:32,960
others out there there isn't just an e.t

933
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:35,279
race maybe the greys but there could be

934
00:32:39,430 --> 00:32:37,440
others like interdimensionals and things

935
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:39,440
we're not just talking about one

936
00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:42,000
one race or one answer you know what do

937
00:32:45,590 --> 00:32:44,240
you think chris

938
00:32:48,549 --> 00:32:45,600
i don't

939
00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:48,559
the vatican right they

940
00:32:51,509 --> 00:32:50,399
wasn't lou go in there for some reason i

941
00:32:53,350 --> 00:32:51,519
thought originally he was gonna go to

942
00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:53,360
the vatican you know and i was like

943
00:32:56,870 --> 00:32:55,600
maybe down in like the catacombs of the

944
00:32:58,470 --> 00:32:56,880
vatican you know have you been under

945
00:33:01,110 --> 00:32:58,480
there you go under uh

946
00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:01,120
uh the church i got this uh

947
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:03,600
it was this tour um

948
00:33:08,630 --> 00:33:06,240
it's like it goes it's like some crazy

949
00:33:10,870 --> 00:33:08,640
200 meters below it's built on these

950
00:33:12,789 --> 00:33:10,880
cemeteries you talk about uh

951
00:33:13,669 --> 00:33:12,799
religion and everything you can see the

952
00:33:20,710 --> 00:33:13,679
uh

953
00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:20,720
cemetery you know so like catholic homes

954
00:33:24,389 --> 00:33:23,039
yeah it is catacombs you can you climb

955
00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:24,399
up right you go up the layers you're

956
00:33:27,190 --> 00:33:26,080
basically walking up in time you know it

957
00:33:29,830 --> 00:33:27,200
starts back in the day there's no

958
00:33:33,269 --> 00:33:29,840
crosses uh and then it gets like close

959
00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:33,279
to you know uh zero time and then uh

960
00:33:37,350 --> 00:33:35,600
some crosses were like getting hashed in

961
00:33:38,710 --> 00:33:37,360
you know bat you know

962
00:33:40,950 --> 00:33:38,720
from a later time

963
00:33:42,549 --> 00:33:40,960
and then and then it goes to uh you know

964
00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:42,559
obviously christianity and then and then

965
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:43,679
from there so

966
00:33:47,350 --> 00:33:45,600
i i was hoping just down there they have

967
00:33:48,789 --> 00:33:47,360
like some crazy alien artifacts or

968
00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:48,799
something you know

969
00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:50,640
i actually heard they uh yeah i don't

970
00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:52,240
know what on the documentary i believe

971
00:33:57,750 --> 00:33:56,640
the vatican supposedly has this um body

972
00:34:01,590 --> 00:33:57,760
of

973
00:34:03,029 --> 00:34:01,600
that um they have you know in a closed

974
00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:03,039
off location or whatever no one's able

975
00:34:07,430 --> 00:34:05,360
to no one's able to go there to actually

976
00:34:10,389 --> 00:34:07,440
you know investigate it or you know look

977
00:34:11,829 --> 00:34:10,399
at it but that's supposedly they have

978
00:34:14,069 --> 00:34:11,839
some kind of

979
00:34:16,310 --> 00:34:14,079
uh body of of an

980
00:34:17,829 --> 00:34:16,320
et's apparently i don't know if it was

981
00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:17,839
retrieved from a crap you know from a

982
00:34:22,149 --> 00:34:20,800
crash or something like that but that's

983
00:34:23,510 --> 00:34:22,159
that's the rumor

984
00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:23,520
i'm not sure how true it is but

985
00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:25,599
apparently no one has access to that

986
00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:26,720
area

987
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:27,599
cool

988
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:29,040
john hunsley thank you for the five

989
00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:30,480
pounds and this is an absolutely

990
00:34:33,829 --> 00:34:32,399
fantastic question

991
00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:33,839
what do you guys think is currently the

992
00:34:37,829 --> 00:34:36,399
most compelling ufo uap video evidence

993
00:34:39,829 --> 00:34:37,839
ever taken

994
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:39,839
wow

995
00:34:43,270 --> 00:34:42,000
i'm gonna i'm gonna throw in the a-10

996
00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:43,280
straight away

997
00:34:47,349 --> 00:34:44,560
because

998
00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:47,359
i think that is incredible

999
00:34:53,589 --> 00:34:50,800
well new it's still not been fully

1000
00:34:55,349 --> 00:34:53,599
concluded um i think the work that chris

1001
00:34:56,389 --> 00:34:55,359
dave and others

1002
00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:56,399
andy

1003
00:34:58,630 --> 00:34:57,440
you know we've been looking at that for

1004
00:34:59,750 --> 00:34:58,640
a little while now and i think it's

1005
00:35:01,430 --> 00:34:59,760
incredible

1006
00:35:02,630 --> 00:35:01,440
so i'm gonna go with that i'm gonna go

1007
00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:02,640
with a10

1008
00:35:07,109 --> 00:35:04,960
who's next

1009
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:07,119
most compelling i don't know video just

1010
00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:12,550
i for me it's got to be gimbal right i

1011
00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:13,680
mean it was the only one i could

1012
00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:16,079
definitively prove and finally get mick

1013
00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:19,040
west to stop making videos about it

1014
00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:20,160
really

1015
00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:22,320
it took 10 of those but in a row but you

1016
00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:25,040
could like dial you know we drilled down

1017
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:27,280
for i don't know how many videos

1018
00:35:35,349 --> 00:35:33,589
back and forth then i think so i think

1019
00:35:36,710 --> 00:35:35,359
so i mean i know we shouldn't look at it

1020
00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:36,720
like a competition or a fight or

1021
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:38,880
anything but yeah no it was look at it

1022
00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:41,280
like that yeah

1023
00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:43,040
it's more fun to do that they always

1024
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:45,760
come back you know i'm like you know i i

1025
00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:47,280
did think at the end like you know come

1026
00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:48,880
up with an answer for this naysayer you

1027
00:35:51,430 --> 00:35:50,320
know i really thought that in my head

1028
00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:51,440
you know and then they came back i'm

1029
00:35:56,230 --> 00:35:54,560
like oh you know they're so smart

1030
00:35:58,870 --> 00:35:56,240
well chris what about the um what about

1031
00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:58,880
the abuelita footage oh yeah also

1032
00:36:03,109 --> 00:36:00,960
exceptional really the scu did such a

1033
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:03,119
great job with that that is really good

1034
00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:05,200
because they had so many different

1035
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,640
data points they had the multiple

1036
00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:08,640
sources they tracked

1037
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:10,480
uh from the you know they were able to

1038
00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:13,440
track the aircraft that was filming the

1039
00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:15,280
the uap they were able to track it with

1040
00:36:19,829 --> 00:36:17,920
another radar so they confirmed that uh

1041
00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:19,839
and then they confirmed with radar that

1042
00:36:22,710 --> 00:36:21,359
they were getting hits off the coast you

1043
00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:22,720
know before these things came up we

1044
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:24,560
don't know if that or this thing

1045
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:26,560
yeah came up

1046
00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:28,560
they're so good i i still i really

1047
00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:31,200
believe if we just get you have one with

1048
00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:34,240
like 50 cameras on it like

1049
00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:36,000
that's gonna be that that yeah that's

1050
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:37,680
gonna be the blockbuster the problem is

1051
00:36:41,109 --> 00:36:39,440
just single source right

1052
00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:41,119
i mean you get one with like there's a

1053
00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:42,400
hundred people

1054
00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:44,320
they all film from different angles

1055
00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:46,160
different houses and then they all go

1056
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:47,920
and upload like nigel did and it would

1057
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:50,160
just be like clay's clothes i mean i

1058
00:36:55,109 --> 00:36:52,320
don't know i i believe so though i mean

1059
00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:55,119
and so fast right and i think

1060
00:36:58,150 --> 00:36:56,400
a lot of reasons you only have like five

1061
00:37:00,630 --> 00:36:58,160
seconds on these videos andy is it's

1062
00:37:02,950 --> 00:37:00,640
just so stupidly hard to send data right

1063
00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:02,960
like a lot of if it's a big file like

1064
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:05,040
nigel's video is like 30 minutes or

1065
00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:06,000
something

1066
00:37:10,790 --> 00:37:08,880
um but youtube man you can upload

1067
00:37:12,310 --> 00:37:10,800
quite large files right it didn't it

1068
00:37:13,430 --> 00:37:12,320
didn't give you any issues right nigel

1069
00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:13,440
or

1070
00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:17,920
some reason the the render

1071
00:37:22,310 --> 00:37:19,920
it ended up being twice as long it's

1072
00:37:23,829 --> 00:37:22,320
kind of like the back end of the thing

1073
00:37:25,030 --> 00:37:23,839
just went black black black black white

1074
00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:25,040
black like so you know it's like the

1075
00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:27,200
fade out just went forever and it took

1076
00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:29,760
like three or four hours to upload

1077
00:37:33,349 --> 00:37:31,520
but i went in and

1078
00:37:35,430 --> 00:37:33,359
redid it because it obviously wasn't the

1079
00:37:36,470 --> 00:37:35,440
film because on i used imovie just put

1080
00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:36,480
it together

1081
00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:37,760
um

1082
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:39,599
and it was fine so i just uploaded it

1083
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:40,800
again and

1084
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:42,560
it wasn't a problem that time so

1085
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:44,880
literally i think it uploaded in about

1086
00:37:49,349 --> 00:37:47,280
30 minutes or so so it wasn't too bad at

1087
00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:49,359
all and again i trimmed off a little bit

1088
00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:51,440
of the end because it had some kind of

1089
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:53,520
more personal detail on there so i just

1090
00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:54,480
trimmed that

1091
00:37:59,430 --> 00:37:58,079
for the public version um and that that

1092
00:38:01,510 --> 00:37:59,440
was rendered in

1093
00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:01,520
youtube in studio so that again took

1094
00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:02,320
about

1095
00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:04,240
15 minutes or something like that so

1096
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:05,920
it's not a difficult thing as you say

1097
00:38:09,430 --> 00:38:07,680
it's not a difficult thing to do you do

1098
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:09,440
i guess you have to have a little bit of

1099
00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:12,160
technology on your side if you want to

1100
00:38:15,910 --> 00:38:13,440
actually put it together in the

1101
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:15,920
presentation form but just uploading a

1102
00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:17,040
video

1103
00:38:21,270 --> 00:38:20,000
is not difficult at all okay i'm just

1104
00:38:23,030 --> 00:38:21,280
going to come in and say john didn't

1105
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:23,040
like my answer the a-10 he says it's an

1106
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:25,680
owl now wait i gotta i want to ask i'm

1107
00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:27,440
glad he brought that up

1108
00:38:31,589 --> 00:38:29,920
guys i i have to ask this question okay

1109
00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:31,599
like for example chris you as a

1110
00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:34,160
professional you know pilot and all this

1111
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:36,480
like i've asked dave the same question

1112
00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:38,560
you know um privately

1113
00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:40,560
is it not frustrating

1114
00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:42,960
when you have years of experience on

1115
00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:44,960
something you know what you're doing you

1116
00:38:47,589 --> 00:38:46,560
know what you're talking about you'll

1117
00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:47,599
give your

1118
00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:49,040
two cents

1119
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:51,440
in regards to for example you know the

1120
00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:53,280
a10 footage and say okay you know what

1121
00:38:56,069 --> 00:38:55,200
that's not a bird you go and do your

1122
00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:56,079
work

1123
00:39:00,310 --> 00:38:58,400
you take out the exact same clear camera

1124
00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:00,320
that was used and come here and do

1125
00:39:05,190 --> 00:39:02,320
comparison footage and someone still

1126
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:05,200
comes and tells you it's an owl

1127
00:39:11,109 --> 00:39:08,720
i mean how frustrating is that when

1128
00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:11,119
this is this is what you do you know and

1129
00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:13,520
then some random individual comes and

1130
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:15,920
says no you're wrong like mick west or

1131
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:17,280
whatever just said you're wrong you're

1132
00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:20,160
wrong i just gave you all of this

1133
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:23,920
proof evidence video comparison

1134
00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:26,000
and you said you will want to insist

1135
00:39:29,349 --> 00:39:27,760
that it's a burden this chris is

1136
00:39:31,109 --> 00:39:29,359
prepared because we're jumping right in

1137
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:31,119
can you hear it i can't help it yeah i

1138
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:32,640
don't know

1139
00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:40,069
of course yeah it's

1140
00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:42,000
i mean the reason i spoke up and i yeah

1141
00:39:46,069 --> 00:39:44,560
was obviously you know i just did some i

1142
00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:46,079
actually took out a lot of things out of

1143
00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:48,079
that first video

1144
00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:48,800
so

1145
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:51,280
you know i was fired up uh it happened

1146
00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:53,119
sometimes because it's so blatantly

1147
00:39:56,470 --> 00:39:54,560
obvious i mean you guys don't see it all

1148
00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:56,480
the time but it'd be like if i showed

1149
00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:57,599
you a

1150
00:40:01,750 --> 00:39:59,680
picture of a you know plastic bag like

1151
00:40:03,990 --> 00:40:01,760
flying you know or you made a video with

1152
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:04,000
your iphone uh you know right outside

1153
00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:05,520
your front door of a plastic bag you

1154
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:07,520
know floating along and you showed it to

1155
00:40:11,109 --> 00:40:09,280
me and you're like that's a duck you

1156
00:40:13,430 --> 00:40:11,119
know that's basically what i what you're

1157
00:40:15,430 --> 00:40:13,440
telling me you know what i'm just like

1158
00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:15,440
yeah so it's just insane but i mean the

1159
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:17,839
biggest the biggest evidence for me is

1160
00:40:22,069 --> 00:40:20,960
is just kinematic how i would argue this

1161
00:40:25,030 --> 00:40:22,079
um

1162
00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:25,040
for this a-10 issue is the a10 is flying

1163
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:28,079
at least 250 knots sideways right

1164
00:40:32,309 --> 00:40:30,480
um so how is it possible that we can

1165
00:40:34,150 --> 00:40:32,319
track this thing for any more than just

1166
00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:34,160
a few fleeting seconds

1167
00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:36,640
uh track the a-10 and that thing in the

1168
00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:38,240
foreground whatever whatever it is you

1169
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:40,400
know how is that even it's not possible

1170
00:40:44,950 --> 00:40:41,280
you know

1171
00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:44,960
you're zoomed in we have like a little

1172
00:40:49,829 --> 00:40:47,760
soda straw and you're just zoomed in

1173
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,839
you know to ultra narrow field of view

1174
00:40:54,230 --> 00:40:51,599
or whatever he was in there for of view

1175
00:40:55,510 --> 00:40:54,240
and now um now there just happens to be

1176
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:55,520
this other

1177
00:41:00,069 --> 00:40:57,680
owl in in the way you know the in the

1178
00:41:02,150 --> 00:41:00,079
plane is flying i mean it's it's moving

1179
00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:02,160
hundreds of knots across so it's in its

1180
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:03,680
line of sight right if it was just going

1181
00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:06,079
away or towards us and i could you could

1182
00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:08,480
maybe argue that this thing is in the in

1183
00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:10,640
the uh foreground and it's not really

1184
00:41:14,950 --> 00:41:12,960
moving or something um but the plane is

1185
00:41:17,030 --> 00:41:14,960
going sideways it's the a10 is obviously

1186
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:17,040
going sideways so

1187
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:18,319
yeah

1188
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:20,400
on that video the a10 video

1189
00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:22,960
as what was that

1190
00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:26,560
yeah yeah it's infrared it wasn't ready

1191
00:41:32,309 --> 00:41:29,760
the jet was hot because it was black

1192
00:41:35,990 --> 00:41:32,319
yeah is that right yeah

1193
00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:37,670
i got it right here you can bring it up

1194
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:39,280
yeah i believe it was

1195
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:40,960
yeah so you've got the you've got the

1196
00:41:45,910 --> 00:41:42,960
exhaust coming out of the jet

1197
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:45,920
yeah oh is the you is that the dot

1198
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:48,400
yeah right here oh okay so they're both

1199
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:51,599
let me make it big yep so it's black hot

1200
00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:54,079
right okay it's john

1201
00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:55,920
friction right the jets the aircraft are

1202
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:57,200
going to be hot for because of the

1203
00:42:00,150 --> 00:41:58,240
friction

1204
00:42:01,510 --> 00:42:00,160
so apparently the a-10 and the bird are

1205
00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:01,520
in the same field of view because the

1206
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:04,240
bird is closer than the a10 but that

1207
00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:06,160
yeah what do you say to that chris

1208
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:08,400
well so he's going sideways right and

1209
00:42:12,550 --> 00:42:10,160
and the best way would be to track it if

1210
00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:12,560
we had the uh degree so the way i'll

1211
00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:14,560
analyze it if people still

1212
00:42:18,950 --> 00:42:17,119
still think it's burnt uh

1213
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:18,960
i'll analyze the the tracking rate

1214
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,640
that's required okay if this thing's

1215
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:22,560
going 200 knots and he's i mean he's

1216
00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:24,720
obviously if you're down low you're not

1217
00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:26,000
going to be going slow because low and

1218
00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:28,160
slow is very dangerous place to be yeah

1219
00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:30,640
i think he's doing an attack run here uh

1220
00:42:33,829 --> 00:42:32,160
and so he's basically coming off of a

1221
00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:33,839
gun attack or a rocket attack or

1222
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:35,040
something

1223
00:42:39,829 --> 00:42:37,280
um and then he's gonna be going probably

1224
00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:39,839
three maybe even up to 250 300 knots i

1225
00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:41,599
guess that's like screaming

1226
00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:43,920
uh screaming for an a10 but still from

1227
00:42:48,790 --> 00:42:45,839
the side right so let's watch it just

1228
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:48,800
imagine it's flying along 200 knots here

1229
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:50,000
okay

1230
00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:51,680
and he's still going tracking to the

1231
00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:52,560
right

1232
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:54,000
where's the wings where's the flapping

1233
00:42:57,990 --> 00:42:56,000
if that's close to the screen we've seen

1234
00:43:02,230 --> 00:42:58,000
so many ir videos he goes out of the

1235
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:08,150
let me check it

1236
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:09,430
yeah it's broken up though this is on

1237
00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:11,599
dave's channel

1238
00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:13,200
i should say the other one but it stays

1239
00:43:16,630 --> 00:43:14,640
that was a bird look

1240
00:43:18,470 --> 00:43:16,640
if that's a bird it would it would not

1241
00:43:20,710 --> 00:43:18,480
fly like that we've seen so many iron

1242
00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:20,720
videos

1243
00:43:25,109 --> 00:43:22,480
where's the wings

1244
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:25,119
where's the flap in

1245
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:26,400
because there's other parts of it right

1246
00:43:29,589 --> 00:43:28,400
where's the full a10 video do you have

1247
00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:29,599
it

1248
00:43:57,430 --> 00:43:40,950
we have to talk about analysis people

1249
00:44:00,390 --> 00:43:58,630
let me know if you want to stop it or

1250
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:00,400
anything at any time yeah just leave it

1251
00:44:05,270 --> 00:44:03,599
going because it catches back up

1252
00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:05,280
a bird would fly the other way with a

1253
00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:08,880
roaring engine of a warthog

1254
00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:10,480
well i guess the argument is it's closer

1255
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:12,000
right

1256
00:44:15,829 --> 00:44:14,319
well here's one where's the wings

1257
00:44:17,510 --> 00:44:15,839
how is this going to happen right how is

1258
00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:17,520
it going to be in the same screen right

1259
00:44:21,829 --> 00:44:19,440
now as the a10 right just think it's

1260
00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:21,839
closer yeah the 18's climbing that's

1261
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:23,200
impossible

1262
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:24,880
i mean just that the last 10 seconds

1263
00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:26,560
right we just calculated how far an a10

1264
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:28,079
would have to go and then you'd have to

1265
00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:30,160
track to control it and then you'd have

1266
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:32,160
to show i mean the whatever's in the

1267
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:34,720
frame would have to be had flown within

1268
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:36,960
that little tiny you know

1269
00:44:40,470 --> 00:44:39,359
one degree example to fly with the i

1270
00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:40,480
mean it's just

1271
00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:42,800
it's not possible you know um

1272
00:44:45,910 --> 00:44:44,240
so i don't know show the stabilized

1273
00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:45,920
video you can see the bird flapping you

1274
00:44:54,630 --> 00:44:51,990
you guys just want to make me do more

1275
00:44:56,309 --> 00:44:54,640
work right and just find this thing down

1276
00:44:57,990 --> 00:44:56,319
i know i know this is exactly the

1277
00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:58,000
follower of mine who has been arguing

1278
00:45:01,670 --> 00:45:00,000
this with me now for forever it's

1279
00:45:03,670 --> 00:45:01,680
kinematics

1280
00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:03,680
i mean it so you can't really tell

1281
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:05,200
because it's moving and so yeah you

1282
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:06,560
could say i guess it's a bird except

1283
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:08,160
there's no way it can stay in the frame

1284
00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:09,839
because the the plane is going too fast

1285
00:45:12,309 --> 00:45:10,720
so

1286
00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:12,319
uh we'll check it out i'll

1287
00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:19,510
well wait so i i can't say this there's

1288
00:45:23,829 --> 00:45:22,160
uh there is video that i would like

1289
00:45:26,309 --> 00:45:23,839
i would love for you to see

1290
00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:26,319
that um i just got confirmation

1291
00:45:31,109 --> 00:45:29,119
uh was believed last night that may be

1292
00:45:32,790 --> 00:45:31,119
released

1293
00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:32,800
a little sooner than i thought

1294
00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:34,800
oh do we get an exclusive here aren't

1295
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:36,319
they

1296
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:37,920
it's actually from the same individual

1297
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:40,480
who released uh who sent me the a10

1298
00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:41,920
footage and um

1299
00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:43,440
i don't know if you had seen the bruja

1300
00:45:47,430 --> 00:45:44,560
footage

1301
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:47,440
from the modem indian reservation

1302
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:49,359
so there was a third one

1303
00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:52,240
that has been kept um on the wrap since

1304
00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:55,040
i got you know holder

1305
00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:57,200
we haven't talked to the bruja one

1306
00:46:01,829 --> 00:45:58,720
have you guys shown that have you talked

1307
00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:01,839
about that one actually um dave dave did

1308
00:46:05,589 --> 00:46:04,720
an analysis for me on that one as well

1309
00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:05,599
and it's

1310
00:46:10,069 --> 00:46:07,200
it's an interest it's an interesting one

1311
00:46:13,030 --> 00:46:11,990
it's the object

1312
00:46:15,190 --> 00:46:13,040
is is

1313
00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:15,200
somewhat i believe and he came to the

1314
00:46:18,390 --> 00:46:17,280
same conclusions related to the other

1315
00:46:20,230 --> 00:46:18,400
footage

1316
00:46:21,109 --> 00:46:20,240
really talking about yeah because the

1317
00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:21,119
the

1318
00:46:23,829 --> 00:46:22,960
it's it's upright it's not emitting any

1319
00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:23,839
heat

1320
00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:26,319
and um it's traveling at a

1321
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:28,800
while in the bruja footage if you notice

1322
00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:30,720
once it passes the cattle

1323
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:32,079
once it passes overhead of the cattle

1324
00:46:35,349 --> 00:46:33,760
actually slows down

1325
00:46:37,349 --> 00:46:35,359
do you have that video is it where is it

1326
00:46:40,069 --> 00:46:37,359
on your link i'm just looking i don't

1327
00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:40,079
think i've got that one yeah so yeah so

1328
00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:43,520
the other footage though the third one

1329
00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:45,359
is about um

1330
00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:48,319
it's almost it's almost an hour

1331
00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:51,040
excellent captured from uh captured from

1332
00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:52,079
the air

1333
00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:53,200
by uh

1334
00:46:58,630 --> 00:46:55,760
homeland uh homeland security

1335
00:47:01,349 --> 00:46:58,640
border patrol through uh flear

1336
00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:01,359
and there's a at least a good 40 full

1337
00:47:04,470 --> 00:47:02,560
minutes

1338
00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:04,480
of this object

1339
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:07,119
going well over 100 miles per hour

1340
00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:08,400
excellent yeah i think i've heard about

1341
00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:15,030
it's really good

1342
00:47:17,829 --> 00:47:16,319
when is it going to come out i keep

1343
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:17,839
hearing about it uh coming up well i

1344
00:47:22,309 --> 00:47:20,000
just like i said i just i just got i

1345
00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:22,319
just got word that it

1346
00:47:26,470 --> 00:47:23,920
now may be coming out a lot sooner there

1347
00:47:29,109 --> 00:47:26,480
was some you actually brought up um one

1348
00:47:31,270 --> 00:47:29,119
of the main reasons at the beginning was

1349
00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:31,280
um when you post a video on youtube that

1350
00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:33,599
it allows anyone else to you know post

1351
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:35,440
it or whatever for copyright loses or

1352
00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:37,040
whatever so

1353
00:47:41,589 --> 00:47:39,440
that was one of the issues they had and

1354
00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:41,599
i decided to privately post it

1355
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:42,880
to give

1356
00:47:46,470 --> 00:47:44,880
you know the organization working on it

1357
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:46,480
the go ahead to

1358
00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:49,359
release so now it's just waiting to see

1359
00:47:52,549 --> 00:47:51,119
what exactly they're gonna go through

1360
00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:52,559
with it but

1361
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:54,319
excellent and what do you guys think of

1362
00:47:58,069 --> 00:47:56,079
sky hub

1363
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:58,079
um well it's a shame that the american

1364
00:48:01,589 --> 00:48:00,400
side of the whole organization is shut

1365
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:01,599
down

1366
00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:02,800
yeah i don't know is that what happened

1367
00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:04,880
i don't know anything i'm sorry yeah the

1368
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:11,109
was the main issue unfortunately there

1369
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:12,319
was i think there was a bit of back and

1370
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:13,680
forth between some of the people within

1371
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:15,760
the organization but i can't really i

1372
00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:17,040
can't really speak to that without

1373
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:18,880
knowing the full ins and outs but i

1374
00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:21,119
heard the scene i know the european arm

1375
00:48:24,710 --> 00:48:23,040
is still going strong so i think it's a

1376
00:48:26,549 --> 00:48:24,720
great thing you know

1377
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:26,559
yeah it's excellent yeah is this

1378
00:48:29,589 --> 00:48:27,520
something

1379
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:29,599
i think

1380
00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:30,960
kevin knew

1381
00:48:34,069 --> 00:48:32,960
was talking about skyhub and isn't

1382
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:34,079
something it's components you can

1383
00:48:41,829 --> 00:48:40,069
put it together yourself and have it in

1384
00:48:43,510 --> 00:48:41,839
your back garden yeah yeah and then i

1385
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:43,520
think the software that you use or i

1386
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:45,359
think that comes from sky herb is like

1387
00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:47,520
it's like an ai that automatically

1388
00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:49,359
tracks things through the sky it it

1389
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:51,280
knows birds planes and all the regular

1390
00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:53,040
things you'd see in the sky and it

1391
00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:54,720
eliminates them and then picks up any

1392
00:48:59,109 --> 00:48:57,760
anomalies it's it's a fantastic idea in

1393
00:49:00,630 --> 00:48:59,119
a bit of kit i think there's different

1394
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:00,640
levels as well depending how much you

1395
00:49:04,309 --> 00:49:03,119
want to spend and invest

1396
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:04,319
yeah i think they're having issues

1397
00:49:06,630 --> 00:49:05,520
though

1398
00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:06,640
so

1399
00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:07,920
now let's just remind me actually

1400
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:08,960
something that i did think about the

1401
00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:10,480
other day

1402
00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:11,839
you'll get some

1403
00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:14,079
things come into my head now no i'd say

1404
00:49:19,750 --> 00:49:16,000
this because i just wanted to get it out

1405
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:19,760
and get an answer is it true that uh

1406
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:21,760
kind of civilian radar

1407
00:49:26,710 --> 00:49:24,880
is is filtered to not pick up anything

1408
00:49:28,950 --> 00:49:26,720
other than civilian and military stuff

1409
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:28,960
so anything that's just kind of

1410
00:49:33,589 --> 00:49:31,440
random is it is it filtered i i'm sure i

1411
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:33,599
heard something like that yeah of course

1412
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:35,280
yeah yeah

1413
00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:37,359
is it actually filtered or is it is it

1414
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:39,200
filtered as in it doesn't it just

1415
00:49:43,349 --> 00:49:41,520
ignores it or does it record it but just

1416
00:49:45,030 --> 00:49:43,359
puts it to one side

1417
00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:45,040
yeah it depends there's many different

1418
00:49:48,069 --> 00:49:46,720
types of radar you know like weather

1419
00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:48,079
radar

1420
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:51,599
uh it it goes out and bounces off of you

1421
00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:53,599
know ice and water you know it's looking

1422
00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:55,680
for water and stuff like that you know

1423
00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:56,720
so

1424
00:49:59,670 --> 00:49:58,240
but most if you're looking for planes

1425
00:50:00,870 --> 00:49:59,680
you don't want to pick up all that stuff

1426
00:50:01,829 --> 00:50:00,880
right you want to you want to look

1427
00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:01,839
through the weather that's like the

1428
00:50:05,750 --> 00:50:03,359
benefit of radar is it can go through

1429
00:50:07,349 --> 00:50:05,760
weather in this clear stuff the big

1430
00:50:08,549 --> 00:50:07,359
negative of flear right which i haven't

1431
00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:08,559
really mentioned on any of the videos is

1432
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:10,079
you can't really see through clouds

1433
00:50:13,990 --> 00:50:12,400
right you know so if i know somebody's

1434
00:50:15,750 --> 00:50:14,000
hunting me and they have an ir like i'm

1435
00:50:17,109 --> 00:50:15,760
gonna go under a tree or in the clouds

1436
00:50:20,230 --> 00:50:17,119
or something you know i don't know or

1437
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:20,240
like dave said in a was it in a uh a

1438
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:21,839
greenhouse i think you said that one

1439
00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:24,800
time like oh yeah

1440
00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:26,960
yeah

1441
00:50:33,109 --> 00:50:31,359
through glass it it actually uh reflects

1442
00:50:34,549 --> 00:50:33,119
if you've committed a robbery and you're

1443
00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:34,559
on the run and the police helicopters

1444
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:36,880
above you with their flare yeah

1445
00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:49,270
i'll keep that in my other pocket

1446
00:50:52,790 --> 00:50:50,400
because in this pocket i've got my

1447
00:50:56,020 --> 00:50:52,800
tripod ready to film

1448
00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:56,030
i'm all set for every possibility

1449
00:50:59,430 --> 00:50:57,599
[Music]

1450
00:51:01,030 --> 00:50:59,440
so yeah i'm just going to give a shout

1451
00:51:03,990 --> 00:51:01,040
out to guitar stinger you're going out

1452
00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:04,000
on a ce5 event tonight good luck man i

1453
00:51:07,910 --> 00:51:05,680
wish you all the best

1454
00:51:09,589 --> 00:51:07,920
so i just wanted to give that shout out

1455
00:51:11,270 --> 00:51:09,599
and if we don't hear from you again we

1456
00:51:13,030 --> 00:51:11,280
know it's work

1457
00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:13,040
well he actually says he's got a group

1458
00:51:17,430 --> 00:51:14,960
of

1459
00:51:19,829 --> 00:51:17,440
10 or 15 people so

1460
00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:19,839
you know he's in good company so they'll

1461
00:51:24,390 --> 00:51:22,079
be good but yeah i wish you luck man did

1462
00:51:25,510 --> 00:51:24,400
you guys uh read the um oh go ahead you

1463
00:51:26,790 --> 00:51:25,520
were going to shout someone else no no

1464
00:51:28,549 --> 00:51:26,800
no i was just going to shout out benji's

1465
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:28,559
asking about sky 4 which is sean

1466
00:51:32,710 --> 00:51:31,040
cahill's organization um he's saying

1467
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:32,720
apart from a few tweets and articles

1468
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:34,480
sean's been a bit quiet lately any word

1469
00:51:38,549 --> 00:51:36,400
on what he's working on with skype but

1470
00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:38,559
no direct word that i've heard benji

1471
00:51:42,630 --> 00:51:40,559
i've heard a few little talks behind the

1472
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:42,640
scenes but it's not really my place to

1473
00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:45,839
talk about them speculatively so i think

1474
00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:48,000
it's best we wait a little while

1475
00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:49,680
i'm sure they're doing some good work

1476
00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:52,160
lose alluded to something um i don't

1477
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:53,520
think it'd be much longer before we hear

1478
00:51:56,710 --> 00:51:55,920
what they've been up to so

1479
00:51:58,870 --> 00:51:56,720
yeah

1480
00:52:00,710 --> 00:51:58,880
go on andy you're gonna say man i was

1481
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:00,720
just gonna say if you guys had seen the

1482
00:52:05,109 --> 00:52:03,440
uh article on medium

1483
00:52:06,870 --> 00:52:05,119
um with the um

1484
00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:06,880
uaps aren't russian or chinese the

1485
00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:08,400
pentagon knows it

1486
00:52:14,069 --> 00:52:11,119
where they uh found

1487
00:52:15,829 --> 00:52:14,079
in in john podesta's emails

1488
00:52:18,549 --> 00:52:15,839
conversations between them uh him and

1489
00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:18,559
bob fish oh yes

1490
00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:21,359
i know that in it very well indeed

1491
00:52:25,109 --> 00:52:22,640
you're talking about the stuff where it

1492
00:52:27,109 --> 00:52:25,119
comes in and the satellites see it like

1493
00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:27,119
the fast walker stuff well there are

1494
00:52:30,549 --> 00:52:28,160
they they

1495
00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:30,559
i i read about it before when they first

1496
00:52:34,150 --> 00:52:32,880
came out um but yeah they

1497
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:34,160
they could see them coming from deep

1498
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:36,000
space and actually tracking them all the

1499
00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:38,000
way down until they enter the ocean

1500
00:52:41,829 --> 00:52:40,000
yeah it's not like they don't know what

1501
00:52:44,470 --> 00:52:41,839
these things are and also

1502
00:52:46,390 --> 00:52:44,480
i always say this my biggest argument is

1503
00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:46,400
you can't say it's russia or china or

1504
00:52:51,109 --> 00:52:49,280
any other you know major uh player out

1505
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:51,119
there because this is a phenomenon

1506
00:52:53,270 --> 00:52:52,400
that's been around since the beginning

1507
00:52:55,349 --> 00:52:53,280
of us

1508
00:52:56,950 --> 00:52:55,359
you know this is you know how could you

1509
00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:56,960
possibly say it's

1510
00:53:01,349 --> 00:52:59,119
china or russia and you go back into

1511
00:53:02,790 --> 00:53:01,359
history and see that this is something

1512
00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:02,800
we've all we've been seeing now since

1513
00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:03,839
the beginning

1514
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:06,400
since we've been around you know

1515
00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:08,640
i also think that it was china or russia

1516
00:53:13,349 --> 00:53:11,119
they'd let us know by now somewhere in

1517
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:13,359
some way shape or form and you know if

1518
00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:15,680
they if they're able to just wander

1519
00:53:18,470 --> 00:53:17,520
around you know

1520
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:18,480
free

1521
00:53:23,430 --> 00:53:22,240
in u.s military airspace

1522
00:53:25,190 --> 00:53:23,440
you know that

1523
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:25,200
they they'd want you to know it was then

1524
00:53:27,750 --> 00:53:26,480
wouldn't they

1525
00:53:29,190 --> 00:53:27,760
you think you think even if they tried

1526
00:53:30,069 --> 00:53:29,200
to keep it secret it would come out by

1527
00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:30,079
now

1528
00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:33,760
got their own uap program similar to the

1529
00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:35,680
uap task force so

1530
00:53:39,910 --> 00:53:38,640
it doesn't make sense that it's them and

1531
00:53:41,829 --> 00:53:39,920
you know they've got these two bands

1532
00:53:43,589 --> 00:53:41,839
like the ua their task force and then

1533
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:43,599
their military completely separated

1534
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:45,200
makes no sense but

1535
00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:46,800
i think as well with

1536
00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:48,960
the stuff that podesta was talking about

1537
00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:51,200
in those emails relates to what lou's

1538
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:52,880
been talking about recently with these

1539
00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:54,640
sensor systems

1540
00:53:57,589 --> 00:53:55,680
where

1541
00:53:59,990 --> 00:53:57,599
you know anybody pretty much anybody can

1542
00:54:01,750 --> 00:54:00,000
track or predict when uap are going to

1543
00:54:03,670 --> 00:54:01,760
come or be around

1544
00:54:05,349 --> 00:54:03,680
um which he's not given us the answer to

1545
00:54:08,950 --> 00:54:05,359
i've been working tirelessly for the

1546
00:54:10,549 --> 00:54:08,960
last few days it's a compass

1547
00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:10,559
i've got a list of three and that's one

1548
00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:11,920
of them

1549
00:54:16,470 --> 00:54:14,400
actually chris

1550
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:16,480
now that vinnie mentions that um that

1551
00:54:19,270 --> 00:54:17,760
was one of the reasons i wanted you to

1552
00:54:20,309 --> 00:54:19,280
see that video i sent you with that

1553
00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:20,319
individual

1554
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:21,839
because if you notice he spoke about

1555
00:54:26,069 --> 00:54:23,200
that where he knew he says that he

1556
00:54:27,910 --> 00:54:26,079
overheard them mentioning that they knew

1557
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:27,920
when they where they would be when they

1558
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:30,319
would enter with whatever

1559
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:32,880
uh warp or or wormhole that they knew

1560
00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:34,319
how to track them

1561
00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:36,000
so that was that was one of the reasons

1562
00:54:38,630 --> 00:54:37,200
why i sent that to you because i wanted

1563
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:38,640
i wanted to see if you know any of what

1564
00:54:41,670 --> 00:54:40,720
he was saying kind of made any sense you

1565
00:54:42,789 --> 00:54:41,680
know

1566
00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:42,799
but um

1567
00:54:45,510 --> 00:54:44,400
they have the apparently they have the

1568
00:54:47,190 --> 00:54:45,520
ability

1569
00:54:50,230 --> 00:54:47,200
to track these things before they even

1570
00:54:51,990 --> 00:54:50,240
appear yeah the magnetic

1571
00:54:53,349 --> 00:54:52,000
the magnetic field isn't it coming in

1572
00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:53,359
effectively

1573
00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:54,720
i did see something and i'm not sure

1574
00:54:58,470 --> 00:54:56,400
what channel it was on the other night

1575
00:54:59,349 --> 00:54:58,480
um it may have been thomas fessler's

1576
00:55:01,349 --> 00:54:59,359
channel

1577
00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:01,359
right we're discussing the similar thing

1578
00:55:06,230 --> 00:55:03,200
and there was they they mentioned that

1579
00:55:08,390 --> 00:55:06,240
there's a certain radio frequency that

1580
00:55:11,670 --> 00:55:08,400
pops up and they they said that kind of

1581
00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:11,680
can be a precursor of of sightings

1582
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:13,920
so again if it's you know it could be a

1583
00:55:17,589 --> 00:55:16,240
magnetic kind of anomaly that creates

1584
00:55:20,789 --> 00:55:17,599
this radio

1585
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:20,799
burst um and that's that you know it

1586
00:55:25,270 --> 00:55:23,040
gives you an idea of when something

1587
00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:25,280
might actually take you know take an

1588
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:28,720
event or uh or you know or a sighting

1589
00:55:32,950 --> 00:55:30,640
and this is this is now going on a

1590
00:55:35,510 --> 00:55:32,960
couple years that they've apparently had

1591
00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:35,520
this ability

1592
00:55:38,710 --> 00:55:36,880
because initially i was thinking i'll

1593
00:55:40,549 --> 00:55:38,720
drive frequency through ham radio or

1594
00:55:42,230 --> 00:55:40,559
something like that but

1595
00:55:43,670 --> 00:55:42,240
that doesn't make sense that i know it's

1596
00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:43,680
accessible to everyone if everyone goes

1597
00:55:47,430 --> 00:55:45,520
out and buys a ham radio but the way lou

1598
00:55:50,069 --> 00:55:47,440
was talking about it it's something it's

1599
00:55:51,910 --> 00:55:50,079
so simple and basic

1600
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:51,920
massive grin on his face and it's like

1601
00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:53,920
that made me think we're right back down

1602
00:55:57,829 --> 00:55:56,640
to basics

1603
00:55:59,829 --> 00:55:57,839
yeah

1604
00:56:02,390 --> 00:55:59,839
i mean i'm not saying we're right but it

1605
00:56:04,630 --> 00:56:02,400
makes perfect sense and

1606
00:56:05,829 --> 00:56:04,640
yeah yeah i mean it i think if it's if

1607
00:56:07,670 --> 00:56:05,839
you're talking

1608
00:56:09,990 --> 00:56:07,680
the things that that these things can

1609
00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:10,000
actually do right then it's

1610
00:56:12,789 --> 00:56:11,040
they're doing something with the

1611
00:56:14,230 --> 00:56:12,799
magnetic and electric fields that we

1612
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:14,240
don't understand right we still don't

1613
00:56:19,589 --> 00:56:17,920
understand why magnetism and electricity

1614
00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:19,599
are related you know despite what they

1615
00:56:23,109 --> 00:56:20,880
all say we don't know why they're

1616
00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:23,119
related like we we observe things you

1617
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:24,480
know we observe why and same thing with

1618
00:56:27,829 --> 00:56:25,920
gravity we observe

1619
00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:27,839
you know when the apple falls but we

1620
00:56:32,069 --> 00:56:30,000
don't know really why you know they say

1621
00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:32,079
curvature space time it's like okay you

1622
00:56:34,710 --> 00:56:33,280
know

1623
00:56:36,230 --> 00:56:34,720
what is that what's space time then and

1624
00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:36,240
it's like

1625
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:37,520
i don't really know

1626
00:56:41,109 --> 00:56:38,960
but okay that's curve the thing you

1627
00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:41,119
don't know it's curved and so this this

1628
00:56:44,789 --> 00:56:43,520
causes gravity um so which is

1629
00:56:49,349 --> 00:56:44,799
interesting too i've been looking into

1630
00:56:52,789 --> 00:56:51,030
definitely

1631
00:56:55,589 --> 00:56:52,799
yeah and he mentioned that uh because

1632
00:56:58,390 --> 00:56:55,599
kevin knew uh in another interview with

1633
00:57:00,230 --> 00:56:58,400
uh kurt jaimungal and um and theories

1634
00:57:02,549 --> 00:57:00,240
everything he was talking it was just a

1635
00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:02,559
theory about the cows uh skinwalker

1636
00:57:05,829 --> 00:57:03,440
rants they're talking about all the

1637
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:05,839
crazy stuff at skimwakker ranch and he's

1638
00:57:11,430 --> 00:57:08,640
talking about uh there's a certain hertz

1639
00:57:12,789 --> 00:57:11,440
that is 12 hertz is supposedly the the

1640
00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:12,799
alpha

1641
00:57:17,829 --> 00:57:15,040
or the the hearts of your brain there's

1642
00:57:19,109 --> 00:57:17,839
some brain uh waves in your brain i

1643
00:57:20,950 --> 00:57:19,119
guess they could run at 12 hertz or

1644
00:57:23,750 --> 00:57:20,960
something and so you can

1645
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:23,760
potentially maybe excite these

1646
00:57:26,789 --> 00:57:25,440
with those uh frequencies so that could

1647
00:57:28,470 --> 00:57:26,799
be why people feel these kind of weird

1648
00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:28,480
effects or

1649
00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:30,400
you know something like that uh and so

1650
00:57:33,430 --> 00:57:31,680
they were saying

1651
00:57:35,589 --> 00:57:33,440
yeah kevin was talking about how this

1652
00:57:37,829 --> 00:57:35,599
this other uh this other guy sorry wrote

1653
00:57:40,309 --> 00:57:37,839
it down um

1654
00:57:42,630 --> 00:57:40,319
anyway he he'd written he basic it's

1655
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:42,640
euphoria ufo

1656
00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:45,359
rhea euphoria is the is the effect this

1657
00:57:49,829 --> 00:57:46,880
this man i can't remember his name off

1658
00:57:52,069 --> 00:57:49,839
time i had uh made so that it that low

1659
00:57:53,750 --> 00:57:52,079
frequencies uh is related to gravity

1660
00:57:56,710 --> 00:57:53,760
waves actually if you look at gravity

1661
00:57:58,150 --> 00:57:56,720
wave you know they're just so big um

1662
00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:58,160
but they're so hard to detect right i

1663
00:58:01,030 --> 00:57:59,280
think they're so hard to detect because

1664
00:58:02,230 --> 00:58:01,040
the wavelengths are so big you know so

1665
00:58:04,150 --> 00:58:02,240
yeah

1666
00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:04,160
i think it's all related somehow to

1667
00:58:09,190 --> 00:58:06,640
magnetism electricity and then somehow

1668
00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:09,200
gravity uh and that all just sounds like

1669
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:10,720
a compass to me you know it all relates

1670
00:58:14,470 --> 00:58:12,960
to your company did you see it i mean we

1671
00:58:16,549 --> 00:58:14,480
know that the

1672
00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:16,559
the guys at skinwalker ranch have been

1673
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:18,400
having setting up this super duper

1674
00:58:22,390 --> 00:58:20,640
equipment computer things and

1675
00:58:23,829 --> 00:58:22,400
magnetometers and everything

1676
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:23,839
but the one thing that really stood out

1677
00:58:27,430 --> 00:58:25,760
for me especially in the the tv series

1678
00:58:30,510 --> 00:58:27,440
were they were just having strange

1679
00:58:32,789 --> 00:58:30,520
issues with a compass

1680
00:58:34,549 --> 00:58:32,799
electromagnetic anomalies because the

1681
00:58:36,950 --> 00:58:34,559
compass was completely switching from

1682
00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:36,960
true north to a point on the ranch where

1683
00:58:42,069 --> 00:58:39,760
they were doing specific work and stuff

1684
00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:42,079
absolutely isn't isn't that the same

1685
00:58:45,910 --> 00:58:44,640
thing that pilot uh many many reports

1686
00:58:47,349 --> 00:58:45,920
from pilots

1687
00:58:52,950 --> 00:58:47,359
uh where they say that they're you know

1688
00:58:56,470 --> 00:58:54,230
i really want to do an interview with

1689
00:58:58,230 --> 00:58:56,480
ted ted rowe he gave a great uh i

1690
00:59:00,390 --> 00:58:58,240
actually was next on my list or on my

1691
00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:00,400
list of videos to make is his

1692
00:59:04,549 --> 00:59:02,960
his conference brief at that aiaa

1693
00:59:06,069 --> 00:59:04,559
conference was awesome man he talked

1694
00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:06,079
about that yeah

1695
00:59:09,349 --> 00:59:08,240
they had 57 events

1696
00:59:11,829 --> 00:59:09,359
yeah yeah i think that's what you're

1697
00:59:14,069 --> 00:59:11,839
referring to andy the 57 events

1698
00:59:16,549 --> 00:59:14,079
uh of electrical

1699
00:59:19,030 --> 00:59:16,559
failures or anomalies of some sort on

1700
00:59:20,630 --> 00:59:19,040
the planes when they saw these uh really

1701
00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:20,640
the balls of light is what what he was

1702
00:59:24,549 --> 00:59:23,359
saying in his briefing ted ted wrote uh

1703
00:59:25,990 --> 00:59:24,559
when the balls of light were there they

1704
00:59:27,349 --> 00:59:26,000
were getting weird anomalies and then

1705
00:59:29,109 --> 00:59:27,359
when they when they didn't see the balls

1706
00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:29,119
of light anymore the anomalies went away

1707
00:59:34,150 --> 00:59:31,680
so it was like they were transient

1708
00:59:35,829 --> 00:59:34,160
it's interesting that is interesting man

1709
00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:35,839
definitely

1710
00:59:40,630 --> 00:59:39,280
yeah just going back to the the a i a i

1711
00:59:42,789 --> 00:59:40,640
think when we were talking about which

1712
00:59:45,109 --> 00:59:42,799
was the most compelling sighting you

1713
00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:45,119
said gimbal i'd agree with gimbal but i

1714
00:59:50,390 --> 00:59:47,520
think the most compelling thing

1715
00:59:51,910 --> 00:59:50,400
that i've heard recently was ryan gray's

1716
00:59:53,349 --> 00:59:51,920
talk you know

1717
00:59:55,349 --> 00:59:53,359
discussing

1718
00:59:58,309 --> 00:59:55,359
the the sightings off the of the

1719
01:00:00,870 --> 00:59:58,319
virginia coast of virginia beach in that

1720
01:00:02,390 --> 01:00:00,880
in that kind of in that operation zone

1721
01:00:08,710 --> 01:00:02,400
the whiskey zone is it

1722
01:00:14,069 --> 01:00:11,430
about 10 nautical miles

1723
01:00:20,549 --> 01:00:14,079
um and they would see them day in and

1724
01:00:23,990 --> 01:00:22,390
i kind of looked in that area on google

1725
01:00:25,829 --> 01:00:24,000
earth and it's it's actually quite

1726
01:00:28,390 --> 01:00:25,839
shallow there isn't it goes out very

1727
01:00:30,150 --> 01:00:28,400
quite shallow and i saw there's a

1728
01:00:32,710 --> 01:00:30,160
there's a place called the chesapeake

1729
01:00:34,549 --> 01:00:32,720
light uh the chesapeake lighthouse or

1730
01:00:36,549 --> 01:00:34,559
something and it's it's basically it's

1731
01:00:38,630 --> 01:00:36,559
been there since the 60s there's been a

1732
01:00:41,349 --> 01:00:38,640
lighthouse out there since the

1733
01:00:43,190 --> 01:00:41,359
1800s or something but there's a there's

1734
01:00:44,710 --> 01:00:43,200
it's called the chesapeake light and

1735
01:00:46,549 --> 01:00:44,720
it's this basically it looks like uh it

1736
01:00:48,230 --> 01:00:46,559
kind of looks like a small

1737
01:00:49,990 --> 01:00:48,240
oil rig if you like standing out there

1738
01:00:53,109 --> 01:00:50,000
but it was used for

1739
01:00:55,910 --> 01:00:53,119
um weather and it was also a lighthouse

1740
01:00:58,630 --> 01:00:55,920
at one time that sounds like it would be

1741
01:01:01,030 --> 01:00:58,640
a perfect place to stick some sensors

1742
01:01:04,150 --> 01:01:01,040
and some big cameras and look across

1743
01:01:06,789 --> 01:01:04,160
that space and that's about 13 miles out

1744
01:01:08,789 --> 01:01:06,799
i think but even so that would be a good

1745
01:01:11,270 --> 01:01:08,799
spot if they're there all that time that

1746
01:01:13,589 --> 01:01:11,280
amount of time and that rick regularity

1747
01:01:15,349 --> 01:01:13,599
that would be a good place to

1748
01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:15,359
put these guys yeah but i i did an

1749
01:01:18,789 --> 01:01:16,480
interview with like a good friend of

1750
01:01:21,109 --> 01:01:18,799
mine jeff blask who works he lives in

1751
01:01:23,109 --> 01:01:21,119
florida and works for the the county out

1752
01:01:25,750 --> 01:01:23,119
there they're putting up these massive

1753
01:01:26,789 --> 01:01:25,760
domed what you might think our radar

1754
01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:26,799
stations

1755
01:01:29,829 --> 01:01:28,400
and i mean i did an interview with him

1756
01:01:31,510 --> 01:01:29,839
about it and he spoke to one of the

1757
01:01:33,510 --> 01:01:31,520
contractors working on the case for the

1758
01:01:35,829 --> 01:01:33,520
air force and jokingly said these would

1759
01:01:37,349 --> 01:01:35,839
be great for tracking uap and apparently

1760
01:01:39,430 --> 01:01:37,359
the guy just went to him

1761
01:01:40,710 --> 01:01:39,440
yep you got it that kind of thing and

1762
01:01:43,270 --> 01:01:40,720
apparently they're cropping up across

1763
01:01:45,109 --> 01:01:43,280
multiple coasts now in the u.s brand new

1764
01:01:45,829 --> 01:01:45,119
classic classified data coming out of

1765
01:01:47,829 --> 01:01:45,839
them

1766
01:01:50,390 --> 01:01:47,839
to do with the air force subcontractors

1767
01:01:52,069 --> 01:01:50,400
it's incredible so that's gonna you know

1768
01:01:53,990 --> 01:01:52,079
it's a developing story because we don't

1769
01:01:55,829 --> 01:01:54,000
know much information about it i don't

1770
01:01:57,510 --> 01:01:55,839
even think they're finished yet

1771
01:01:58,710 --> 01:01:57,520
but yeah that's a that's a good rabbit

1772
01:02:00,069 --> 01:01:58,720
hole to go down

1773
01:02:01,430 --> 01:02:00,079
if there's any other place that they

1774
01:02:02,710 --> 01:02:01,440
should put it out it's

1775
01:02:05,670 --> 01:02:02,720
puerto rico

1776
01:02:08,710 --> 01:02:05,680
oh yeah because i believe i mean

1777
01:02:09,990 --> 01:02:08,720
abuelita is a massive hot spot i mean

1778
01:02:11,750 --> 01:02:10,000
like

1779
01:02:14,470 --> 01:02:11,760
you talk about hot spots it's just as

1780
01:02:17,910 --> 01:02:14,480
hot as like brazil and south america

1781
01:02:22,069 --> 01:02:19,990
there's so many stories i've seen so

1782
01:02:23,910 --> 01:02:22,079
many videos it's just

1783
01:02:26,069 --> 01:02:23,920
yes i think i think the whiskies are

1784
01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:26,079
right off here with you

1785
01:02:29,910 --> 01:02:28,079
goes out to like

1786
01:02:31,670 --> 01:02:29,920
here

1787
01:02:33,190 --> 01:02:31,680
on the east side right and so it was

1788
01:02:35,670 --> 01:02:33,200
crazy i was looking at this right and if

1789
01:02:38,630 --> 01:02:35,680
you look but it goes out to here this is

1790
01:02:40,150 --> 01:02:38,640
literally bermuda

1791
01:02:42,230 --> 01:02:40,160
the whiskey don't go into in land

1792
01:02:43,910 --> 01:02:42,240
slightly as well

1793
01:02:45,910 --> 01:02:43,920
a little bit only in water

1794
01:02:49,029 --> 01:02:45,920
oh okay yeah i believe i'm sure they

1795
01:02:51,510 --> 01:02:49,039
have some overland space i think 70

1796
01:02:53,190 --> 01:02:51,520
starts in london maybe it goes 71.72 out

1797
01:02:55,349 --> 01:02:53,200
into the ocean or something

1798
01:02:58,230 --> 01:02:55,359
i'm not sure yeah i don't have it on

1799
01:03:00,150 --> 01:02:58,240
easy access but you know

1800
01:03:01,430 --> 01:03:00,160
yeah i'm i'm sure they have overland

1801
01:03:02,710 --> 01:03:01,440
airspace somewhere i don't know where it

1802
01:03:05,510 --> 01:03:02,720
is but the overall

1803
01:03:08,390 --> 01:03:06,630
over water is great you can go

1804
01:03:10,069 --> 01:03:08,400
supersonic you're not worried about uh

1805
01:03:11,990 --> 01:03:10,079
speed you can do chaff flares you know

1806
01:03:14,150 --> 01:03:12,000
we can't we can't dispense flares or

1807
01:03:15,510 --> 01:03:14,160
chaff over a lot of areas of the land

1808
01:03:17,829 --> 01:03:15,520
and such so

1809
01:03:19,829 --> 01:03:17,839
um

1810
01:03:22,870 --> 01:03:19,839
is that a deep ocean shelf that we can

1811
01:03:24,630 --> 01:03:22,880
see that blue line going into dark blue

1812
01:03:27,270 --> 01:03:24,640
yeah this is your shelf

1813
01:03:30,230 --> 01:03:27,280
so this will go deeper

1814
01:03:31,510 --> 01:03:30,240
if you zoom into virginia beach which is

1815
01:03:34,150 --> 01:03:31,520
just there

1816
01:03:35,430 --> 01:03:34,160
yeah that's where oceana is the the

1817
01:03:38,309 --> 01:03:35,440
neighborhood

1818
01:03:40,230 --> 01:03:38,319
yeah yeah that's right

1819
01:03:41,910 --> 01:03:40,240
it's about 10 nautical miles out that

1820
01:03:42,950 --> 01:03:41,920
they do the the

1821
01:03:44,789 --> 01:03:42,960
sort of

1822
01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:44,799
training which takes it into that

1823
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:46,720
shallow area and then obviously it drops

1824
01:03:48,950 --> 01:03:47,680
away

1825
01:03:50,390 --> 01:03:48,960
so these things could be coming out of

1826
01:03:51,990 --> 01:03:50,400
them deep water like

1827
01:03:53,270 --> 01:03:52,000
yeah it's like right here is where your

1828
01:03:55,270 --> 01:03:53,280
your uh

1829
01:03:57,270 --> 01:03:55,280
area is interesting how this is uh very

1830
01:03:59,430 --> 01:03:57,280
close to the bermuda triangle exactly

1831
01:04:01,829 --> 01:03:59,440
that's my point i was like what i'm like

1832
01:04:03,910 --> 01:04:01,839
bermuda's right there

1833
01:04:06,470 --> 01:04:03,920
right ryan said he said you know you try

1834
01:04:08,230 --> 01:04:06,480
to reach things flying east out into the

1835
01:04:12,630 --> 01:04:08,240
middle of the ocean where are they going

1836
01:04:14,950 --> 01:04:12,640
well slightly south of that is bermuda

1837
01:04:17,349 --> 01:04:14,960
yeah i don't know you know um

1838
01:04:19,029 --> 01:04:17,359
because if it does mess up your

1839
01:04:20,710 --> 01:04:19,039
navigation equipment

1840
01:04:23,109 --> 01:04:20,720
you know that could have who knows maybe

1841
01:04:24,549 --> 01:04:23,119
i don't know put put chips off course or

1842
01:04:26,069 --> 01:04:24,559
wow it's crazy anyway i was very

1843
01:04:28,950 --> 01:04:26,079
surprised it was bermuda's right there

1844
01:04:31,349 --> 01:04:28,960
kind of yeah yeah i was freaking out

1845
01:04:32,470 --> 01:04:31,359
that's interesting man like 19

1846
01:04:34,549 --> 01:04:32,480
thing isn't it

1847
01:04:36,150 --> 01:04:34,559
you know that they they they had a

1848
01:04:39,430 --> 01:04:36,160
massive issue

1849
01:04:41,190 --> 01:04:39,440
with the navigation they just eventually

1850
01:04:43,109 --> 01:04:41,200
just ran out of fuel they say and just

1851
01:04:44,549 --> 01:04:43,119
ditched and that was it

1852
01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:44,559
but

1853
01:04:48,309 --> 01:04:46,880
completely off course

1854
01:04:50,630 --> 01:04:48,319
you wonder i mean they're kind of the

1855
01:04:52,630 --> 01:04:50,640
same latitudes you know or what is that

1856
01:05:01,270 --> 01:04:52,640
longitudes

1857
01:05:04,870 --> 01:05:02,950
is like 34 or something you know it's

1858
01:05:09,349 --> 01:05:04,880
interesting because the catalina islands

1859
01:05:10,789 --> 01:05:09,359
are basically kind of the same yeah

1860
01:05:13,430 --> 01:05:10,799
yeah another one

1861
01:05:15,589 --> 01:05:13,440
i haven't heard about that recently um

1862
01:05:17,750 --> 01:05:15,599
well that's near that was close to the

1863
01:05:18,950 --> 01:05:17,760
nimitz encounter wasn't it very yeah

1864
01:05:21,589 --> 01:05:18,960
right here

1865
01:05:24,230 --> 01:05:21,599
yeah now i'm the one with um also with

1866
01:05:26,230 --> 01:05:24,240
jeremy corbell the omaha yeah 2019 yeah

1867
01:05:27,270 --> 01:05:26,240
the uh all of those sightings from the

1868
01:05:28,870 --> 01:05:27,280
that that

1869
01:05:30,309 --> 01:05:28,880
there's plenty other like private

1870
01:05:32,150 --> 01:05:30,319
settings that you know

1871
01:05:34,069 --> 01:05:32,160
regular citizens have had in that area

1872
01:05:35,349 --> 01:05:34,079
as well you can find catalina san

1873
01:05:38,309 --> 01:05:35,359
clemente

1874
01:05:41,109 --> 01:05:38,319
all of those little small islands man

1875
01:05:43,349 --> 01:05:41,119
yeah definitely man what about the uk

1876
01:05:45,029 --> 01:05:43,359
where's the places in the uk or

1877
01:05:47,029 --> 01:05:45,039
i don't i don't know

1878
01:05:49,270 --> 01:05:47,039
we don't hear much do we

1879
01:05:51,270 --> 01:05:49,280
no no i hear it's very

1880
01:05:52,870 --> 01:05:51,280
my good buddy he's from uh he's from

1881
01:05:54,789 --> 01:05:52,880
england he saw ufo when he was a kid

1882
01:05:56,309 --> 01:05:54,799
actually ran from it

1883
01:05:57,990 --> 01:05:56,319
where was he

1884
01:06:00,630 --> 01:05:58,000
i i don't know i have to ask i mean

1885
01:06:06,150 --> 01:06:00,640
there's never there's never a clear sky

1886
01:06:09,589 --> 01:06:08,470
so it landed uh he said it landed in uh

1887
01:06:11,430 --> 01:06:09,599
i don't want to show it but it was

1888
01:06:13,270 --> 01:06:11,440
basically a saucer landed and he booked

1889
01:06:15,589 --> 01:06:13,280
out of there you know he branched out

1890
01:06:16,829 --> 01:06:15,599
we'll have to get him on he saw it he

1891
01:06:19,190 --> 01:06:16,839
saw it yeah

1892
01:06:20,549 --> 01:06:19,200
yeah he said he was 10 years old he saw

1893
01:06:22,950 --> 01:06:20,559
it with his brother and they both ran

1894
01:06:24,950 --> 01:06:22,960
inside and then he just made up a story

1895
01:06:27,029 --> 01:06:24,960
for his brother to say like oh we were

1896
01:06:28,870 --> 01:06:27,039
just playing in ufo i think his little

1897
01:06:31,109 --> 01:06:28,880
brother came in and said told mom you

1898
01:06:33,589 --> 01:06:31,119
know hey we saw a spaceship you know and

1899
01:06:36,309 --> 01:06:33,599
then he kind of played it off uh i i had

1900
01:06:37,430 --> 01:06:36,319
um i had someone tell me in a wild story

1901
01:06:39,430 --> 01:06:37,440
i think it was

1902
01:06:41,589 --> 01:06:39,440
from around this area as well when he

1903
01:06:43,670 --> 01:06:41,599
was younger he was sleeping and got

1904
01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:43,680
woken up by um his mother in the middle

1905
01:06:47,109 --> 01:06:44,720
of the night

1906
01:06:49,190 --> 01:06:47,119
and he saw this light entering the room

1907
01:06:50,950 --> 01:06:49,200
and his mom told him don't move his

1908
01:06:52,789 --> 01:06:50,960
little brother was in the room as well

1909
01:06:53,670 --> 01:06:52,799
uh laying down

1910
01:06:55,589 --> 01:06:53,680
and

1911
01:06:57,670 --> 01:06:55,599
she says stay here i'll be right back

1912
01:06:59,349 --> 01:06:57,680
she goes downstairs it goes outside of

1913
01:07:01,750 --> 01:06:59,359
course curiosity

1914
01:07:03,349 --> 01:07:01,760
uh got the better of him he gets up and

1915
01:07:05,349 --> 01:07:03,359
he looks outside

1916
01:07:06,390 --> 01:07:05,359
and he looks out the window

1917
01:07:09,750 --> 01:07:06,400
and

1918
01:07:11,910 --> 01:07:09,760
right over the neighbor's house

1919
01:07:13,589 --> 01:07:11,920
was literally how he said he described

1920
01:07:15,190 --> 01:07:13,599
as 100 foot sausages sitting right over

1921
01:07:16,870 --> 01:07:15,200
the house and everyone in the

1922
01:07:17,829 --> 01:07:16,880
neighborhood was outside staring at this

1923
01:07:20,069 --> 01:07:17,839
thing

1924
01:07:22,390 --> 01:07:20,079
and um

1925
01:07:24,870 --> 01:07:22,400
it was like emitting a red glow

1926
01:07:27,510 --> 01:07:24,880
and his mother came back upstairs and

1927
01:07:29,029 --> 01:07:27,520
grabbed them and shut the windows and

1928
01:07:29,990 --> 01:07:29,039
and basically just stood there until

1929
01:07:31,910 --> 01:07:30,000
this thing

1930
01:07:33,829 --> 01:07:31,920
the light just disappeared so after that

1931
01:07:35,990 --> 01:07:33,839
he wasn't able to see what happened but

1932
01:07:37,109 --> 01:07:36,000
he did tell me that he clearly saw this

1933
01:07:40,870 --> 01:07:37,119
massive

1934
01:07:43,430 --> 01:07:40,880
right over the house

1935
01:07:45,029 --> 01:07:43,440
and everyone everyone was outside so

1936
01:07:46,950 --> 01:07:45,039
it's it was a really really interesting

1937
01:07:48,549 --> 01:07:46,960
story that's when you need nigel there

1938
01:07:51,750 --> 01:07:48,559
man i bet none of those people went and

1939
01:07:55,349 --> 01:07:53,109
you don't do it

1940
01:07:58,150 --> 01:07:56,549
you gotta be ready it's like the

1941
01:07:59,430 --> 01:07:58,160
heimlich you know before the heimlich

1942
01:08:01,589 --> 01:07:59,440
like how many thousands and thousands of

1943
01:08:03,430 --> 01:08:01,599
people just died you know choking to

1944
01:08:05,270 --> 01:08:03,440
death in a restaurant or something yeah

1945
01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:05,280
that's a little shocking

1946
01:08:08,789 --> 01:08:06,960
like i'm still ready you know i'm not a

1947
01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:08,799
very big guy actually but

1948
01:08:11,589 --> 01:08:10,400
i'm always ready to do a highlight it's

1949
01:08:13,670 --> 01:08:11,599
always different when you see it from

1950
01:08:15,270 --> 01:08:13,680
far it's it's different but you know

1951
01:08:17,749 --> 01:08:15,280
like i was saying the shock and awe of

1952
01:08:20,550 --> 01:08:17,759
something like that to be you know

1953
01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:20,560
like that close to you is you don't you

1954
01:08:25,669 --> 01:08:22,400
don't have the time to look for anything

1955
01:08:27,349 --> 01:08:25,679
because you're so taken back by what it

1956
01:08:28,789 --> 01:08:27,359
is that you're looking at you know it's

1957
01:08:30,470 --> 01:08:28,799
like with mine you know it was not even

1958
01:08:33,030 --> 01:08:30,480
that close you know his was closer than

1959
01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:33,040
my sighting and mines literally had me

1960
01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:34,400
where i didn't even want to do anything

1961
01:08:38,070 --> 01:08:36,560
else but stare at this thing because i

1962
01:08:39,910 --> 01:08:38,080
just couldn't believe how close it was

1963
01:08:41,829 --> 01:08:39,920
you know there's been a lot of sightings

1964
01:08:43,269 --> 01:08:41,839
where people have said that they've been

1965
01:08:45,990 --> 01:08:43,279
stuck in that moment but there's

1966
01:08:48,309 --> 01:08:46,000
something that else has taken over their

1967
01:08:49,749 --> 01:08:48,319
their brain to make them just mesmerized

1968
01:08:51,749 --> 01:08:49,759
to the point where they can't just pull

1969
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:51,759
logical thought out of the head to that

1970
01:08:55,510 --> 01:08:53,040
oh hang on a minute i'll go and grab a

1971
01:08:57,430 --> 01:08:55,520
camera they're so switched into this

1972
01:09:00,149 --> 01:08:57,440
thing that it's almost being affected by

1973
01:09:02,229 --> 01:09:00,159
it it's well it's so it's so just i mean

1974
01:09:03,990 --> 01:09:02,239
it's so out of it you know like like

1975
01:09:05,590 --> 01:09:04,000
it's out of your reality

1976
01:09:08,870 --> 01:09:05,600
it's like the only way i can describe it

1977
01:09:11,910 --> 01:09:08,880
is like a fly or a mosquito being you

1978
01:09:14,390 --> 01:09:11,920
know drawn to uh one of those zappers

1979
01:09:16,309 --> 01:09:14,400
it just sits there yeah

1980
01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:16,319
so it's like literally sitting there

1981
01:09:19,590 --> 01:09:18,000
looking at one of these lights and just

1982
01:09:21,189 --> 01:09:19,600
being mesmerized by what it is you're

1983
01:09:22,789 --> 01:09:21,199
looking at it's it's

1984
01:09:25,030 --> 01:09:22,799
yeah i mean your name's come in here

1985
01:09:26,950 --> 01:09:25,040
you're nailed to the ground

1986
01:09:28,550 --> 01:09:26,960
it must feel like that yeah oh yeah it's

1987
01:09:31,349 --> 01:09:28,560
like literally takes

1988
01:09:33,510 --> 01:09:31,359
it takes over you like i mean it's just

1989
01:09:35,349 --> 01:09:33,520
it's no there's no way to describe it

1990
01:09:37,510 --> 01:09:35,359
you know like you just you literally

1991
01:09:41,030 --> 01:09:37,520
have to experience something like that

1992
01:09:42,950 --> 01:09:41,040
i know i do i want to i was overwhelmed

1993
01:09:44,309 --> 01:09:42,960
around i'm sure chris feels the same

1994
01:09:46,309 --> 01:09:44,319
though i think me and chris are the only

1995
01:09:47,829 --> 01:09:46,319
two have never really seen anything well

1996
01:09:49,669 --> 01:09:47,839
i won't tell the story because i know

1997
01:09:51,189 --> 01:09:49,679
niger you probably don't know but the

1998
01:09:52,030 --> 01:09:51,199
quick version is that i actually was

1999
01:09:54,709 --> 01:09:52,040
about

2000
01:09:56,070 --> 01:09:54,719
150 feet away from one a saucer right

2001
01:09:58,950 --> 01:09:56,080
over my house

2002
01:10:00,550 --> 01:09:58,960
so like you know i've i know the i know

2003
01:10:02,950 --> 01:10:00,560
what that is like to you know sit there

2004
01:10:04,870 --> 01:10:02,960
and just be like like what do you do you

2005
01:10:06,790 --> 01:10:04,880
know you're just staring at me

2006
01:10:08,950 --> 01:10:06,800
can you hear crazy stories too you know

2007
01:10:10,470 --> 01:10:08,960
like the guy on twitter yesterday chris

2008
01:10:12,149 --> 01:10:10,480
on twitter

2009
01:10:14,070 --> 01:10:12,159
you know it's like he's got these you

2010
01:10:15,750 --> 01:10:14,080
know balls of light like following his

2011
01:10:17,669 --> 01:10:15,760
daughter into a room you know and he

2012
01:10:18,630 --> 01:10:17,679
can't go in there he's like can't move

2013
01:10:20,149 --> 01:10:18,640
like

2014
01:10:21,830 --> 01:10:20,159
i don't know oh yeah well they want that

2015
01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:21,840
experience finney you know i want this

2016
01:10:24,550 --> 01:10:22,880
the uh

2017
01:10:25,750 --> 01:10:24,560
just the good cool experiences i don't

2018
01:10:27,510 --> 01:10:25,760
want that's the thing like there's so

2019
01:10:29,510 --> 01:10:27,520
many different versions of what this

2020
01:10:31,910 --> 01:10:29,520
this normally is whether it be crafting

2021
01:10:33,830 --> 01:10:31,920
out out in the sky or orbs in in

2022
01:10:35,830 --> 01:10:33,840
people's houses that was a fantastic

2023
01:10:37,750 --> 01:10:35,840
conversation but you don't know what

2024
01:10:40,229 --> 01:10:37,760
these objects even have smaller beings

2025
01:10:41,669 --> 01:10:40,239
in them who knows i mean doesn't mean

2026
01:10:43,350 --> 01:10:41,679
does it mean that an intelligent being

2027
01:10:44,709 --> 01:10:43,360
has to be the same size as us or the

2028
01:10:46,390 --> 01:10:44,719
same height or a little bit what if

2029
01:10:48,790 --> 01:10:46,400
there's another type of intelligence

2030
01:10:50,950 --> 01:10:48,800
that's way smaller yeah where you see

2031
01:10:52,470 --> 01:10:50,960
these little tiny orbs

2032
01:10:54,550 --> 01:10:52,480
that's that's something i've been

2033
01:10:56,790 --> 01:10:54,560
thinking about a lot recently because

2034
01:10:59,110 --> 01:10:56,800
size and scale

2035
01:11:00,870 --> 01:10:59,120
to us yeah you know if you think about

2036
01:11:02,630 --> 01:11:00,880
time when it goes out into the universe

2037
01:11:04,870 --> 01:11:02,640
this is completely different to here so

2038
01:11:06,550 --> 01:11:04,880
why does scale mean anything when it's

2039
01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:06,560
way out there it's been really on my

2040
01:11:09,430 --> 01:11:08,320
mind there's something i'm thinking

2041
01:11:11,030 --> 01:11:09,440
about

2042
01:11:13,830 --> 01:11:11,040
absolutely

2043
01:11:16,229 --> 01:11:13,840
it's up and down yeah

2044
01:11:17,990 --> 01:11:16,239
it's it's as huge out there as is as

2045
01:11:19,510 --> 01:11:18,000
tiny down there and

2046
01:11:20,470 --> 01:11:19,520
and everything in between

2047
01:11:21,830 --> 01:11:20,480
so

2048
01:11:22,709 --> 01:11:21,840
universe

2049
01:11:24,550 --> 01:11:22,719
yeah

2050
01:11:27,430 --> 01:11:24,560
after that conversation yesterday chris

2051
01:11:29,750 --> 01:11:27,440
on on chris's twitter spaces i i hit him

2052
01:11:31,430 --> 01:11:29,760
up and he's going to come on on here in

2053
01:11:34,470 --> 01:11:31,440
a couple of weeks

2054
01:11:36,149 --> 01:11:34,480
yeah definitely man he's a very very i

2055
01:11:38,229 --> 01:11:36,159
like the guy a lot man i got a lot of

2056
01:11:39,750 --> 01:11:38,239
time for him he's just one of those guys

2057
01:11:42,470 --> 01:11:39,760
that i never connected with and but i've

2058
01:11:44,950 --> 01:11:42,480
seen him everywhere else it's like it's

2059
01:11:47,030 --> 01:11:44,960
time for me to get him on my channel man

2060
01:11:49,510 --> 01:11:47,040
but i mean it's hard right it is hard

2061
01:11:51,510 --> 01:11:49,520
though because

2062
01:11:52,790 --> 01:11:51,520
i mean it's uh it's intense you know

2063
01:11:55,350 --> 01:11:52,800
when that when the people have these

2064
01:11:57,830 --> 01:11:55,360
stories where they're like uh

2065
01:11:59,270 --> 01:11:57,840
you know there's continued contact they

2066
01:12:01,750 --> 01:11:59,280
don't really want and they're in their

2067
01:12:02,950 --> 01:12:01,760
house you know um

2068
01:12:04,470 --> 01:12:02,960
i don't know there's like a lot of

2069
01:12:05,830 --> 01:12:04,480
baggage there you know there is a lot of

2070
01:12:07,590 --> 01:12:05,840
baggage so it is

2071
01:12:09,350 --> 01:12:07,600
you just walk i walk into that room you

2072
01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:09,360
know it's like

2073
01:12:13,189 --> 01:12:11,920
it it's it it is difficult you know like

2074
01:12:15,590 --> 01:12:13,199
well yeah i mean he was talking about

2075
01:12:17,030 --> 01:12:15,600
his experiences growing up and in the

2076
01:12:18,950 --> 01:12:17,040
past then he was talking about how his

2077
01:12:20,229 --> 01:12:18,960
young children are having these

2078
01:12:22,630 --> 01:12:20,239
experiences now

2079
01:12:24,790 --> 01:12:22,640
he couldn't convince his wife of it

2080
01:12:27,430 --> 01:12:24,800
i mean that that dynamic in the family

2081
01:12:29,590 --> 01:12:27,440
must be so stressful

2082
01:12:30,950 --> 01:12:29,600
you know i i i can't even begin to

2083
01:12:32,870 --> 01:12:30,960
imagine how difficult yeah the

2084
01:12:34,149 --> 01:12:32,880
generational effects are freaky too you

2085
01:12:35,669 --> 01:12:34,159
know like it's one thing it happens to

2086
01:12:37,830 --> 01:12:35,679
you but it's like you pass it on your

2087
01:12:40,229 --> 01:12:37,840
kids you know that's messed up you know

2088
01:12:42,709 --> 01:12:40,239
or why why is it going on

2089
01:12:43,990 --> 01:12:42,719
generationally um

2090
01:12:45,350 --> 01:12:44,000
yeah so i mean

2091
01:12:47,110 --> 01:12:45,360
it is it

2092
01:12:48,470 --> 01:12:47,120
yeah there's a lot of baggage right

2093
01:12:51,990 --> 01:12:48,480
there is i mean it's emotional and

2094
01:12:53,669 --> 01:12:52,000
obviously serious serious topic

2095
01:12:55,430 --> 01:12:53,679
that's one that's one of the reasons why

2096
01:12:56,630 --> 01:12:55,440
i say i don't think we're ever going to

2097
01:12:58,229 --> 01:12:56,640
be uh

2098
01:13:01,030 --> 01:12:58,239
really really prepared for it or ready

2099
01:13:02,070 --> 01:13:01,040
for it acceptance acceptance of accepted

2100
01:13:03,030 --> 01:13:02,080
of it

2101
01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:03,040
because

2102
01:13:07,750 --> 01:13:05,760
what if we find out that um we're looked

2103
01:13:09,830 --> 01:13:07,760
at the same way we look at

2104
01:13:12,070 --> 01:13:09,840
uh you know all other biological life on

2105
01:13:14,229 --> 01:13:12,080
this planet you know we go and we go in

2106
01:13:15,590 --> 01:13:14,239
and snatch up an animal and dissect it

2107
01:13:17,270 --> 01:13:15,600
to learn about it

2108
01:13:18,790 --> 01:13:17,280
do we ask for permission do we give a

2109
01:13:19,990 --> 01:13:18,800
crap about what any of the other species

2110
01:13:23,350 --> 01:13:20,000
think no

2111
01:13:25,910 --> 01:13:23,360
so now now think of us you know sentient

2112
01:13:28,229 --> 01:13:25,920
beings of this planet finding out that

2113
01:13:30,149 --> 01:13:28,239
there's a higher intelligence way more

2114
01:13:32,229 --> 01:13:30,159
advanced doing the same with us and

2115
01:13:33,990 --> 01:13:32,239
don't care about what we think in

2116
01:13:35,750 --> 01:13:34,000
regards to that they don't care to ask

2117
01:13:37,189 --> 01:13:35,760
us for permission they're just doing

2118
01:13:38,550 --> 01:13:37,199
what they do the same way we do what we

2119
01:13:39,590 --> 01:13:38,560
do you know

2120
01:13:41,669 --> 01:13:39,600
so like

2121
01:13:42,950 --> 01:13:41,679
what do you how would you react to that

2122
01:13:44,310 --> 01:13:42,960
the fact that you're completely

2123
01:13:46,070 --> 01:13:44,320
powerless to this

2124
01:13:47,669 --> 01:13:46,080
you know i'll just be like dude you

2125
01:13:49,990 --> 01:13:47,679
don't want to look inside me i smoked

2126
01:13:51,910 --> 01:13:50,000
for 20 years i got black lungs

2127
01:13:52,790 --> 01:13:51,920
i'm not a good example no don't come and

2128
01:13:54,550 --> 01:13:52,800
get me

2129
01:13:57,110 --> 01:13:54,560
i mean i know i'm joking and i shouldn't

2130
01:13:58,790 --> 01:13:57,120
so you know but i do respect experiences

2131
01:13:59,990 --> 01:13:58,800
and things like that but

2132
01:14:01,270 --> 01:14:00,000
yeah it's a difficult one isn't it

2133
01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:01,280
because you know i always came at things

2134
01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:02,960
from a nuts and bolts angle but the way

2135
01:14:06,870 --> 01:14:04,080
the more you look at this and the more

2136
01:14:08,070 --> 01:14:06,880
you deep dive and research

2137
01:14:10,149 --> 01:14:08,080
there's so many different angles and

2138
01:14:12,709 --> 01:14:10,159
aspects of it it's not just a case of

2139
01:14:14,149 --> 01:14:12,719
things in the sky it's it's it's down to

2140
01:14:16,870 --> 01:14:14,159
these personal levels that we just

2141
01:14:19,830 --> 01:14:16,880
mentioned across generations so

2142
01:14:21,510 --> 01:14:19,840
yeah man there's so many more questions

2143
01:14:24,870 --> 01:14:21,520
than answers the more you look into it

2144
01:14:26,390 --> 01:14:24,880
it's that same old cliche

2145
01:14:28,390 --> 01:14:26,400
what do you think on the disclosure you

2146
01:14:31,910 --> 01:14:28,400
know do you think that the u.s

2147
01:14:33,990 --> 01:14:31,920
government knew or back in the 40s 50s

2148
01:14:35,669 --> 01:14:34,000
is that what you believed in ian it's i

2149
01:14:37,350 --> 01:14:35,679
think they knew something i think they

2150
01:14:39,750 --> 01:14:37,360
knew something about certain downed

2151
01:14:41,830 --> 01:14:39,760
craft and probably certain biological

2152
01:14:43,669 --> 01:14:41,840
entities and some bodies maybe but that

2153
01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:43,679
doesn't answer everything that answers

2154
01:14:48,630 --> 01:14:45,840
what happened then doesn't answer these

2155
01:14:49,990 --> 01:14:48,640
things that are supposedly seen

2156
01:14:51,350 --> 01:14:50,000
that look more like they're coming from

2157
01:14:54,149 --> 01:14:51,360
different dimensions that are blinking

2158
01:14:56,149 --> 01:14:54,159
in and out of existence on you know

2159
01:14:57,669 --> 01:14:56,159
i don't think it's all one thing and

2160
01:14:59,430 --> 01:14:57,679
that's just speculation but that's just

2161
01:15:01,430 --> 01:14:59,440
the way through my research that's what

2162
01:15:03,430 --> 01:15:01,440
i've come to that's why i say it's it's

2163
01:15:05,910 --> 01:15:03,440
ask it's given me more questions than

2164
01:15:07,270 --> 01:15:05,920
answers the more i look into it

2165
01:15:09,910 --> 01:15:07,280
yeah i guess the only thing i can think

2166
01:15:11,910 --> 01:15:09,920
of is um you know if your information is

2167
01:15:13,750 --> 01:15:11,920
compartmentalized in

2168
01:15:15,750 --> 01:15:13,760
in militaries or in governments right

2169
01:15:17,590 --> 01:15:15,760
it's usually hidden down

2170
01:15:20,149 --> 01:15:17,600
uh there's lists you know of who

2171
01:15:22,070 --> 01:15:20,159
actually even knows the information um

2172
01:15:23,510 --> 01:15:22,080
you know if you could pass through walls

2173
01:15:25,189 --> 01:15:23,520
travel through walls and you had

2174
01:15:27,430 --> 01:15:25,199
advanced technology it'd be pretty easy

2175
01:15:29,590 --> 01:15:27,440
to to get rid of all those lists and

2176
01:15:30,870 --> 01:15:29,600
they're not it can't be that many right

2177
01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:30,880
yeah you're talking about these super

2178
01:15:36,070 --> 01:15:34,000
secret areas there's not so much

2179
01:15:37,750 --> 01:15:36,080
um that's why i'm like just post that

2180
01:15:39,030 --> 01:15:37,760
sucker to youtube you know like half

2181
01:15:41,590 --> 01:15:39,040
that's supposed to put it on the

2182
01:15:42,790 --> 01:15:41,600
blockchain you know i mean they probably

2183
01:15:44,229 --> 01:15:42,800
they probably have quantum computers

2184
01:15:47,669 --> 01:15:44,239
right because you need quantum computers

2185
01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:47,679
to to beat uh like like bitcoin the nsa

2186
01:15:50,709 --> 01:15:49,360
can't hack bitcoin you know that's

2187
01:15:52,950 --> 01:15:50,719
that's why they don't like it right

2188
01:15:54,310 --> 01:15:52,960
because now for for like the first time

2189
01:15:56,390 --> 01:15:54,320
in history we have

2190
01:15:58,390 --> 01:15:56,400
greater cryptological advantage over uh

2191
01:15:59,510 --> 01:15:58,400
governments right that's it the control

2192
01:16:02,390 --> 01:15:59,520
is with us

2193
01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:02,400
yes yeah unless they say we can't do it

2194
01:16:05,910 --> 01:16:04,239
and so the government can do that right

2195
01:16:08,229 --> 01:16:05,920
like china they shut down all this all

2196
01:16:10,310 --> 01:16:08,239
the crypto uh essentially yeah so they

2197
01:16:11,590 --> 01:16:10,320
shut down everything man they shut down

2198
01:16:12,950 --> 01:16:11,600
you know house you can spend playing

2199
01:16:13,750 --> 01:16:12,960
video games

2200
01:16:18,550 --> 01:16:13,760
yeah

2201
01:16:22,149 --> 01:16:20,310
so no i get you though i i hear where

2202
01:16:23,750 --> 01:16:22,159
you're coming from exactly man

2203
01:16:25,189 --> 01:16:23,760
yeah so i don't know i could see that

2204
01:16:26,950 --> 01:16:25,199
happening i could see people make you

2205
01:16:28,950 --> 01:16:26,960
know it's a crazy time there in the 40s

2206
01:16:30,709 --> 01:16:28,960
and 50s you know you're talking

2207
01:16:32,390 --> 01:16:30,719
we were dropping literally nuclear bombs

2208
01:16:34,709 --> 01:16:32,400
on people and

2209
01:16:36,470 --> 01:16:34,719
you know they who could it's i don't

2210
01:16:38,630 --> 01:16:36,480
think we can imagine their thought

2211
01:16:40,070 --> 01:16:38,640
processes at the time you know the level

2212
01:16:42,070 --> 01:16:40,080
of violence they were in total war

2213
01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:42,080
situation

2214
01:16:44,950 --> 01:16:43,120
so i don't know i could see where they

2215
01:16:46,390 --> 01:16:44,960
disco they hide stuff because they think

2216
01:16:48,630 --> 01:16:46,400
you know whatever the commies are going

2217
01:16:50,470 --> 01:16:48,640
to get it you know and so i could see

2218
01:16:51,830 --> 01:16:50,480
them hiding it at that point

2219
01:16:53,430 --> 01:16:51,840
and then maybe

2220
01:16:55,750 --> 01:16:53,440
they just keep keep it secret for so

2221
01:16:57,590 --> 01:16:55,760
many years seems kind of crazy to me but

2222
01:16:59,189 --> 01:16:57,600
it's i guess it's possible

2223
01:17:01,270 --> 01:16:59,199
it's hard to speculate when you go back

2224
01:17:03,189 --> 01:17:01,280
that far i mean so many people was

2225
01:17:04,550 --> 01:17:03,199
asking questions about war and stuff

2226
01:17:06,630 --> 01:17:04,560
like that they weren't asking questions

2227
01:17:07,590 --> 01:17:06,640
about flying sources and that even

2228
01:17:08,790 --> 01:17:07,600
though it was

2229
01:17:11,189 --> 01:17:08,800
that's when it kind of started being

2230
01:17:13,189 --> 01:17:11,199
portrayed in in film and things like

2231
01:17:15,430 --> 01:17:13,199
that and popular culture that's kind of

2232
01:17:16,550 --> 01:17:15,440
the where it all sort of started but

2233
01:17:18,470 --> 01:17:16,560
they weren't asking the big deep

2234
01:17:19,590 --> 01:17:18,480
questions that we're asking now you know

2235
01:17:21,830 --> 01:17:19,600
asking the questions why the government

2236
01:17:23,110 --> 01:17:21,840
were hiding things you know when project

2237
01:17:24,870 --> 01:17:23,120
blue book was going on the public

2238
01:17:26,790 --> 01:17:24,880
weren't questioning it

2239
01:17:28,709 --> 01:17:26,800
you know it was only after the fact that

2240
01:17:31,830 --> 01:17:28,719
people were like hang on a minute

2241
01:17:34,870 --> 01:17:31,840
are they telling us the truth

2242
01:17:36,709 --> 01:17:34,880
you mean they're lying to us no no no

2243
01:17:39,189 --> 01:17:36,719
well that person may not be lying to you

2244
01:17:41,910 --> 01:17:39,199
that person may actually just not know

2245
01:17:44,229 --> 01:17:41,920
you know so compartmentalization exactly

2246
01:17:45,669 --> 01:17:44,239
yeah again you compartmentalize and and

2247
01:17:47,510 --> 01:17:45,679
that's the thing like if you get it

2248
01:17:49,430 --> 01:17:47,520
narrowed down so small

2249
01:17:52,070 --> 01:17:49,440
then it's a very small target to destroy

2250
01:17:53,270 --> 01:17:52,080
that information right so that's why if

2251
01:17:54,790 --> 01:17:53,280
you can travel through walls and really

2252
01:17:56,310 --> 01:17:54,800
do all this stuff it wouldn't be that

2253
01:17:57,669 --> 01:17:56,320
hard to get rid of it

2254
01:17:59,110 --> 01:17:57,679
yeah that's why i find it difficult when

2255
01:18:00,470 --> 01:17:59,120
people say well the government are never

2256
01:18:01,669 --> 01:18:00,480
going to tell us anything it's like

2257
01:18:04,310 --> 01:18:01,679
you're talking about this massive

2258
01:18:06,310 --> 01:18:04,320
umbrella of the government you know and

2259
01:18:08,070 --> 01:18:06,320
they're not telling us that you can't

2260
01:18:10,310 --> 01:18:08,080
say that you've got to dig right down

2261
01:18:13,510 --> 01:18:10,320
deep into the tiny little annexes at the

2262
01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:13,520
bottom with those few secret keepers

2263
01:18:17,990 --> 01:18:15,840
because everyone else has no idea

2264
01:18:20,470 --> 01:18:18,000
they wish they did but they don't

2265
01:18:22,070 --> 01:18:20,480
so it's not a simple and then sorry the

2266
01:18:23,830 --> 01:18:22,080
ones that are down there are then in

2267
01:18:25,910 --> 01:18:23,840
cahoots with the

2268
01:18:27,830 --> 01:18:25,920
few people within private corporations

2269
01:18:29,830 --> 01:18:27,840
like lockheed and so and so on and so

2270
01:18:31,990 --> 01:18:29,840
forth who might have information but

2271
01:18:33,430 --> 01:18:32,000
even within the private com corporations

2272
01:18:35,110 --> 01:18:33,440
there are need to know and

2273
01:18:36,470 --> 01:18:35,120
compartmentalization

2274
01:18:38,310 --> 01:18:36,480
and i just don't like this whole

2275
01:18:40,310 --> 01:18:38,320
umbrella speak of the government will

2276
01:18:41,590 --> 01:18:40,320
never tell you anything i i hate it when

2277
01:18:43,510 --> 01:18:41,600
people say that

2278
01:18:45,030 --> 01:18:43,520
yeah the uap report though it sold a lot

2279
01:18:46,709 --> 01:18:45,040
you know it really did

2280
01:18:47,910 --> 01:18:46,719
you know you got definite numbers in

2281
01:18:50,229 --> 01:18:47,920
there you got

2282
01:18:52,870 --> 01:18:50,239
you know so it's 11 safety i mean they

2283
01:18:54,790 --> 01:18:52,880
said you know it is a safety

2284
01:18:56,550 --> 01:18:54,800
safety factor you know it's a safety

2285
01:18:58,310 --> 01:18:56,560
issue for sure

2286
01:18:59,510 --> 01:18:58,320
and that is that you know that's that is

2287
01:19:02,950 --> 01:18:59,520
your

2288
01:19:04,390 --> 01:19:02,960
you know f in front of mom kind of

2289
01:19:06,390 --> 01:19:04,400
situation right the only reason you

2290
01:19:07,830 --> 01:19:06,400
would do that i mean it's all

2291
01:19:09,750 --> 01:19:07,840
flying is inherently dangerous

2292
01:19:11,350 --> 01:19:09,760
especially flying fighters and training

2293
01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:11,360
and everything very dangerous

2294
01:19:16,950 --> 01:19:14,560
but we do that um right um because the

2295
01:19:18,550 --> 01:19:16,960
risk is ultimately we think worth it but

2296
01:19:20,709 --> 01:19:18,560
only if you drive down your safety

2297
01:19:22,709 --> 01:19:20,719
numbers enough right if you lose a plane

2298
01:19:24,070 --> 01:19:22,719
every time you go and train

2299
01:19:25,990 --> 01:19:24,080
right

2300
01:19:27,430 --> 01:19:26,000
you're not gonna train um so you have to

2301
01:19:29,270 --> 01:19:27,440
drive your state so that's why safety

2302
01:19:31,189 --> 01:19:29,280
has to be the you have to focus on that

2303
01:19:32,630 --> 01:19:31,199
first right yeah because everyone's

2304
01:19:33,990 --> 01:19:32,640
focusing on the mission like everybody's

2305
01:19:35,750 --> 01:19:34,000
focused on the mission everybody wants

2306
01:19:37,510 --> 01:19:35,760
cooler weapons cooler toys we can shoot

2307
01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:37,520
them faster you know i'm like we already

2308
01:19:41,750 --> 01:19:39,920
shoot them really fast you know um but

2309
01:19:43,910 --> 01:19:41,760
but that's what they're focused on um

2310
01:19:45,910 --> 01:19:43,920
instead of you know i was always on the

2311
01:19:47,750 --> 01:19:45,920
nerdier side the safety side you know

2312
01:19:49,110 --> 01:19:47,760
like you know how can we do it without

2313
01:19:50,950 --> 01:19:49,120
losing assets how can we do it more

2314
01:19:53,189 --> 01:19:50,960
efficient um

2315
01:19:54,950 --> 01:19:53,199
so i don't the safety part but it is

2316
01:19:57,189 --> 01:19:54,960
it's a stopping point you know so if

2317
01:19:58,310 --> 01:19:57,199
they say safety someone has to like hit

2318
01:19:59,750 --> 01:19:58,320
the red button

2319
01:20:01,270 --> 01:19:59,760
so yeah and i think

2320
01:20:03,189 --> 01:20:01,280
yeah i think what people need to realize

2321
01:20:05,030 --> 01:20:03,199
as well that i get a lot of comments on

2322
01:20:06,709 --> 01:20:05,040
my especially on my instagram people

2323
01:20:09,030 --> 01:20:06,719
saying well these these things aren't a

2324
01:20:11,270 --> 01:20:09,040
threat i'm like listen tell that to the

2325
01:20:13,510 --> 01:20:11,280
pilots that having near misses with that

2326
01:20:14,709 --> 01:20:13,520
on a regular basis who are flying you

2327
01:20:16,870 --> 01:20:14,719
know

2328
01:20:19,990 --> 01:20:16,880
super fast in their jets and that who

2329
01:20:22,709 --> 01:20:20,000
are having to perform evasive maneuvers

2330
01:20:24,470 --> 01:20:22,719
just to avoid these things

2331
01:20:26,550 --> 01:20:24,480
how how can you say that these things

2332
01:20:28,950 --> 01:20:26,560
aren't a potential threat yet they're

2333
01:20:30,870 --> 01:20:28,960
they are experienced this by what ryan

2334
01:20:33,750 --> 01:20:30,880
graves says on an almost day-to-day

2335
01:20:36,229 --> 01:20:33,760
basis you know i i think people are just

2336
01:20:38,470 --> 01:20:36,239
so like la di da that aliens are just

2337
01:20:40,629 --> 01:20:38,480
here to help us man like

2338
01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:40,639
come on man it's not that black and

2339
01:20:45,669 --> 01:20:44,000
white no yeah you know it really isn't

2340
01:20:47,990 --> 01:20:45,679
and i you know

2341
01:20:50,709 --> 01:20:48,000
i don't know what to do

2342
01:20:52,390 --> 01:20:50,719
well island um qualified that the other

2343
01:20:53,910 --> 01:20:52,400
day on something i was watching he said

2344
01:20:56,070 --> 01:20:53,920
you know threat threat means two

2345
01:20:58,390 --> 01:20:56,080
different things if it's aggression

2346
01:20:59,830 --> 01:20:58,400
that's a different threat to safety and

2347
01:21:01,430 --> 01:20:59,840
like you're saying safety is the most

2348
01:21:03,270 --> 01:21:01,440
important thing i mean the fact that

2349
01:21:05,910 --> 01:21:03,280
these things are zipping between two

2350
01:21:09,669 --> 01:21:05,920
jets yeah when they're 100 feet apart

2351
01:21:11,910 --> 01:21:09,679
you know which isn't a lot um you know

2352
01:21:14,550 --> 01:21:11,920
it's they met these these objects might

2353
01:21:16,149 --> 01:21:14,560
not collide they may be just due not to

2354
01:21:18,790 --> 01:21:16,159
collide with stuff but it's not it's not

2355
01:21:19,590 --> 01:21:18,800
going to stop one of the jets panicking

2356
01:21:20,709 --> 01:21:19,600
and

2357
01:21:22,470 --> 01:21:20,719
flying

2358
01:21:23,830 --> 01:21:22,480
banking instantly i mean chris you could

2359
01:21:25,669 --> 01:21:23,840
attest to that how would that have made

2360
01:21:28,149 --> 01:21:25,679
you feel you got your f-16 you got your

2361
01:21:30,550 --> 01:21:28,159
wingman off your wing 100 feet or 200

2362
01:21:31,990 --> 01:21:30,560
feet and this thing's coming between you

2363
01:21:32,950 --> 01:21:32,000
i mean i can pretty much guess what

2364
01:21:36,070 --> 01:21:32,960
you're going to say but how would that

2365
01:21:38,790 --> 01:21:36,080
have made you feel man

2366
01:21:40,310 --> 01:21:38,800
i have no idea honestly

2367
01:21:42,390 --> 01:21:40,320
you wouldn't be happy about it would you

2368
01:21:44,870 --> 01:21:42,400
i guess they had some they knew about it

2369
01:21:47,189 --> 01:21:44,880
you know um

2370
01:21:49,590 --> 01:21:47,199
yeah i mean i don't move you know

2371
01:21:51,110 --> 01:21:49,600
i move so slow like my wife

2372
01:21:52,310 --> 01:21:51,120
you know she like catches glasses and

2373
01:21:53,510 --> 01:21:52,320
stuff but i've just been trying like i

2374
01:21:54,950 --> 01:21:53,520
don't move

2375
01:21:56,790 --> 01:21:54,960
like if something happens

2376
01:21:58,709 --> 01:21:56,800
you know on a plane if you if you have

2377
01:22:00,149 --> 01:21:58,719
this jerk reaction it's usually a bad

2378
01:22:01,990 --> 01:22:00,159
reaction you know so

2379
01:22:03,350 --> 01:22:02,000
i go the opposite now like a glass falls

2380
01:22:05,750 --> 01:22:03,360
and i'm just like

2381
01:22:07,430 --> 01:22:05,760
you know i just watch it you know

2382
01:22:09,350 --> 01:22:07,440
reaction you know it's getting better

2383
01:22:11,910 --> 01:22:09,360
i'm trying to like come on man like

2384
01:22:13,350 --> 01:22:11,920
you totally could have cut that uh

2385
01:22:15,750 --> 01:22:13,360
so i wouldn't have done anything really

2386
01:22:17,350 --> 01:22:15,760
i've just been not crashing into the any

2387
01:22:19,350 --> 01:22:17,360
you know and i was just sitting by and

2388
01:22:20,870 --> 01:22:19,360
be like holy [\h__\h] you know i think i

2389
01:22:22,470 --> 01:22:20,880
think that's really all that

2390
01:22:24,790 --> 01:22:22,480
that would happen stay still and

2391
01:22:26,709 --> 01:22:24,800
nothing's gonna happen

2392
01:22:28,629 --> 01:22:26,719
yeah i don't know how you process it you

2393
01:22:30,390 --> 01:22:28,639
know i don't know yeah they knew about

2394
01:22:32,149 --> 01:22:30,400
it though they had some idea

2395
01:22:34,709 --> 01:22:32,159
well they did yeah they i mean they

2396
01:22:36,229 --> 01:22:34,719
spoke between themselves you know

2397
01:22:37,270 --> 01:22:36,239
i think there was so many conversations

2398
01:22:39,110 --> 01:22:37,280
and we heard i think i've heard ryan

2399
01:22:40,950 --> 01:22:39,120
graves say this before that they would

2400
01:22:42,229 --> 01:22:40,960
have these conversations each time you

2401
01:22:44,149 --> 01:22:42,239
know another squadron went up and that'd

2402
01:22:45,669 --> 01:22:44,159
be like be careful out there they're

2403
01:22:47,510 --> 01:22:45,679
still up there every day we're still

2404
01:22:49,110 --> 01:22:47,520
seeing them like you know joking within

2405
01:22:50,950 --> 01:22:49,120
themselves we're not joking but like

2406
01:22:53,110 --> 01:22:50,960
just

2407
01:22:54,629 --> 01:22:53,120
kind of casually speaking like yep

2408
01:22:55,430 --> 01:22:54,639
they're still up there that kind of

2409
01:22:58,390 --> 01:22:55,440
thing

2410
01:23:00,550 --> 01:22:58,400
like nervous laughter yeah like yeah

2411
01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:00,560
that's exactly it

2412
01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:02,800
okay yeah yeah yeah

2413
01:23:07,110 --> 01:23:05,760
his last his uh in his presentation his

2414
01:23:09,350 --> 01:23:07,120
last statement you know where the

2415
01:23:11,110 --> 01:23:09,360
commander of the squadron says it's only

2416
01:23:13,110 --> 01:23:11,120
a matter of time before there's a mishap

2417
01:23:14,870 --> 01:23:13,120
i mean that's just exactly

2418
01:23:17,270 --> 01:23:14,880
he's not like but i think it would be

2419
01:23:19,350 --> 01:23:17,280
more human error than anything

2420
01:23:22,310 --> 01:23:19,360
because this very very very very few

2421
01:23:23,669 --> 01:23:22,320
cases of an unidentified object

2422
01:23:26,310 --> 01:23:23,679
colliding

2423
01:23:28,390 --> 01:23:26,320
with a you know airplane or anything

2424
01:23:30,229 --> 01:23:28,400
like that in the sky

2425
01:23:32,709 --> 01:23:30,239
how do we know that i've heard about

2426
01:23:34,709 --> 01:23:32,719
we've been very very there are a few i

2427
01:23:37,030 --> 01:23:34,719
know it's very no there's a there are a

2428
01:23:38,310 --> 01:23:37,040
few but this it's not like to the point

2429
01:23:40,070 --> 01:23:38,320
where you got to be like oh my god these

2430
01:23:41,430 --> 01:23:40,080
guys don't know how they how to drive up

2431
01:23:43,270 --> 01:23:41,440
there you know what i'm saying

2432
01:23:45,270 --> 01:23:43,280
but um

2433
01:23:46,390 --> 01:23:45,280
it's it's i think

2434
01:23:49,030 --> 01:23:46,400
they know what they're doing you know

2435
01:23:50,709 --> 01:23:49,040
especially when you are flying at 16 000

2436
01:23:53,270 --> 01:23:50,719
miles per hour right over the surface of

2437
01:23:54,629 --> 01:23:53,280
the land and not crash into anything

2438
01:23:56,550 --> 01:23:54,639
pretty sure you you know your your

2439
01:23:58,149 --> 01:23:56,560
skills are up there too

2440
01:24:00,629 --> 01:23:58,159
did you guys read this statement from

2441
01:24:03,430 --> 01:24:00,639
tom delong

2442
01:24:05,750 --> 01:24:03,440
it's a bit small but it's um

2443
01:24:07,030 --> 01:24:05,760
it's talking about videos that they were

2444
01:24:08,709 --> 01:24:07,040
trying to get released at the time of

2445
01:24:10,550 --> 01:24:08,719
the gimbal go faster than the tic tac

2446
01:24:12,790 --> 01:24:10,560
and it's saying there's

2447
01:24:13,750 --> 01:24:12,800
and there were 26 videos

2448
01:24:15,990 --> 01:24:13,760
um

2449
01:24:18,310 --> 01:24:16,000
one very small did some of the videos

2450
01:24:19,830 --> 01:24:18,320
have ufos 10 feet away from the f-18

2451
01:24:22,550 --> 01:24:19,840
tracking them for 20 minutes and it's

2452
01:24:24,629 --> 01:24:22,560
all on camera the ufo's going 600 miles

2453
01:24:25,910 --> 01:24:24,639
an hour and the pilot's freaking out

2454
01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:25,920
screaming

2455
01:24:31,350 --> 01:24:28,000
and all this thing is scanning the plane

2456
01:24:33,189 --> 01:24:31,360
for a whole 20 minutes like

2457
01:24:35,030 --> 01:24:33,199
i'm pretty sure that's a freak i'm

2458
01:24:37,189 --> 01:24:35,040
pretty sure that's the one that lou was

2459
01:24:38,950 --> 01:24:37,199
mentioning with a guy who soiled himself

2460
01:24:40,390 --> 01:24:38,960
i think so as well i'm gonna speak i'm

2461
01:24:43,270 --> 01:24:40,400
gonna ask that question next week like

2462
01:24:45,669 --> 01:24:43,280
he literally soiled himself

2463
01:24:47,590 --> 01:24:45,679
so yeah from the fear that is the 23

2464
01:24:49,030 --> 01:24:47,600
minute video i think so i'm going to try

2465
01:24:51,430 --> 01:24:49,040
and get a bit yeah i'm going to dig in

2466
01:24:53,350 --> 01:24:51,440
with that with low a little bit you know

2467
01:24:55,990 --> 01:24:53,360
we'll see

2468
01:24:57,830 --> 01:24:56,000
yeah yeah 19 well the 19th so what where

2469
01:25:00,790 --> 01:24:57,840
are we eight days away so a week

2470
01:25:02,629 --> 01:25:00,800
tomorrow yeah lou's coming on again

2471
01:25:04,390 --> 01:25:02,639
so i've got him for an hour hour and a

2472
01:25:05,910 --> 01:25:04,400
quarter something like that

2473
01:25:07,270 --> 01:25:05,920
yeah so

2474
01:25:09,270 --> 01:25:07,280
yeah if you guys got any questions you

2475
01:25:11,189 --> 01:25:09,280
want to ask him just just let me know

2476
01:25:12,709 --> 01:25:11,199
about the compass i don't know i i mean

2477
01:25:15,350 --> 01:25:12,719
i kind of feel bad if it is you know

2478
01:25:17,430 --> 01:25:15,360
because he he was pretty obvious but

2479
01:25:18,709 --> 01:25:17,440
wow

2480
01:25:20,390 --> 01:25:18,719
i was going to bring something up along

2481
01:25:22,709 --> 01:25:20,400
the lines of the sensor system and i

2482
01:25:24,149 --> 01:25:22,719
think i mean i i've been thinking about

2483
01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:24,159
it behind the scenes trying to work it

2484
01:25:27,669 --> 01:25:25,520
out and i thought you know like i said

2485
01:25:29,189 --> 01:25:27,679
that was on my list of three

2486
01:25:31,189 --> 01:25:29,199
i didn't want to say anything right now

2487
01:25:33,910 --> 01:25:31,199
but because you said it i'm not okay

2488
01:25:35,510 --> 01:25:33,920
sorry i don't know it's absolutely fine

2489
01:25:38,070 --> 01:25:35,520
yeah you know it's great i think more

2490
01:25:40,229 --> 01:25:38,080
people should know i i just hadn't

2491
01:25:41,270 --> 01:25:40,239
really finished what i was doing but you

2492
01:25:42,550 --> 01:25:41,280
know what

2493
01:25:43,830 --> 01:25:42,560
that's just i'm just gonna throw it out

2494
01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:43,840
there to lou

2495
01:25:47,350 --> 01:25:45,520
and there is i was trying to find it i

2496
01:25:49,590 --> 01:25:47,360
couldn't find it on my phone but martin

2497
01:25:51,510 --> 01:25:49,600
uh from from denmark he he sent a list

2498
01:25:54,229 --> 01:25:51,520
there are these um

2499
01:25:56,790 --> 01:25:54,239
i don't know magnetic detectors around

2500
01:25:58,310 --> 01:25:56,800
you can actually look online to find uh

2501
01:26:00,310 --> 01:25:58,320
i don't know compass measurements i

2502
01:26:02,790 --> 01:26:00,320
guess i'm not sure but i'm looking into

2503
01:26:04,550 --> 01:26:02,800
it maybe there is a national like

2504
01:26:05,430 --> 01:26:04,560
you know magnetic detection system or

2505
01:26:08,790 --> 01:26:05,440
something

2506
01:26:10,709 --> 01:26:08,800
that detects fields for some reason

2507
01:26:12,070 --> 01:26:10,719
so i don't know i was looking at emfs

2508
01:26:13,430 --> 01:26:12,080
too but i couldn't find anything below

2509
01:26:15,270 --> 01:26:13,440
50 hertz you know it's just like these

2510
01:26:17,510 --> 01:26:15,280
cheap crappy ones

2511
01:26:18,629 --> 01:26:17,520
that go from like 50 to 60 hertz

2512
01:26:21,350 --> 01:26:18,639
yeah i've been looking at trying to get

2513
01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:21,360
some ton of data equipment whether it be

2514
01:26:25,830 --> 01:26:23,920
some flare system or some night vision

2515
01:26:28,070 --> 01:26:25,840
or something but yeah

2516
01:26:29,510 --> 01:26:28,080
yeah i have bad skies here and so i want

2517
01:26:30,870 --> 01:26:29,520
to see beyond the clouds that we have

2518
01:26:32,709 --> 01:26:30,880
here nightly and

2519
01:26:34,149 --> 01:26:32,719
you can get flare systems that made by

2520
01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:34,159
flare that actually clip onto your

2521
01:26:37,110 --> 01:26:35,280
iphone

2522
01:26:39,350 --> 01:26:37,120
i've been considering that but then i

2523
01:26:41,430 --> 01:26:39,360
won't get much much distance so i don't

2524
01:26:43,270 --> 01:26:41,440
know andy you've got kind of a neat bit

2525
01:26:44,550 --> 01:26:43,280
okay haven't you you've got one of them

2526
01:26:46,790 --> 01:26:44,560
yeah

2527
01:26:48,709 --> 01:26:46,800
the luna optic third generation uh

2528
01:26:50,709 --> 01:26:48,719
infrared

2529
01:26:53,030 --> 01:26:50,719
yeah i'm just not right it's actually

2530
01:26:54,149 --> 01:26:53,040
crystal crystal clear at night the only

2531
01:26:55,990 --> 01:26:54,159
problem is there's so many damn

2532
01:26:57,830 --> 01:26:56,000
mosquitoes out here that i don't want to

2533
01:26:59,510 --> 01:26:57,840
sit outside in the middle of the night

2534
01:27:01,830 --> 01:26:59,520
i'm waiting for winter to come then i go

2535
01:27:03,590 --> 01:27:01,840
outside you know calmly look up but if i

2536
01:27:05,270 --> 01:27:03,600
do it now forget it i'll freaking die of

2537
01:27:07,030 --> 01:27:05,280
some kind of disease

2538
01:27:12,310 --> 01:27:07,040
goldie just look like a mosquito swarm

2539
01:27:16,950 --> 01:27:15,030
but it is good i'm waiting for that to

2540
01:27:19,510 --> 01:27:16,960
start using it because

2541
01:27:21,350 --> 01:27:19,520
um the clarity is amazing i know i'll

2542
01:27:23,030 --> 01:27:21,360
catch something really good

2543
01:27:24,229 --> 01:27:23,040
yeah now that's cool man well listen

2544
01:27:26,550 --> 01:27:24,239
guys we're about to hit the hour and a

2545
01:27:27,750 --> 01:27:26,560
half mark this is flown by has anyone

2546
01:27:28,709 --> 01:27:27,760
got anything they want to talk about

2547
01:27:30,629 --> 01:27:28,719
before we

2548
01:27:32,709 --> 01:27:30,639
sign off or

2549
01:27:34,310 --> 01:27:32,719
we

2550
01:27:36,149 --> 01:27:34,320
i was going to say just backtracking to

2551
01:27:38,870 --> 01:27:36,159
what andy was saying about his encounter

2552
01:27:40,550 --> 01:27:38,880
and being 100 feet away from something i

2553
01:27:43,189 --> 01:27:40,560
think if my

2554
01:27:45,750 --> 01:27:43,199
sighting had been anything closer than

2555
01:27:47,430 --> 01:27:45,760
you know anything close to that i think

2556
01:27:48,870 --> 01:27:47,440
my reaction would have been a lot

2557
01:27:51,830 --> 01:27:48,880
different

2558
01:27:53,590 --> 01:27:51,840
yeah yeah i think i think you know i

2559
01:27:55,030 --> 01:27:53,600
would have had to have talked to

2560
01:27:57,350 --> 01:27:55,040
somebody about it probably from the

2561
01:27:59,350 --> 01:27:57,360
psychological aspect yeah

2562
01:28:01,270 --> 01:27:59,360
seeing something that close i mean

2563
01:28:03,910 --> 01:28:01,280
you're seeing it and then you go i can't

2564
01:28:05,669 --> 01:28:03,920
be seeing this why why am i seeing that

2565
01:28:07,910 --> 01:28:05,679
i can't i can't be seeing this this

2566
01:28:09,350 --> 01:28:07,920
isn't real it can't be real it is real

2567
01:28:10,870 --> 01:28:09,360
you know that's just all the things that

2568
01:28:13,750 --> 01:28:10,880
must go through your head when you see

2569
01:28:15,750 --> 01:28:13,760
something that close up i mean i could

2570
01:28:18,070 --> 01:28:15,760
literally just

2571
01:28:20,470 --> 01:28:18,080
see it from a distance or a big distance

2572
01:28:22,709 --> 01:28:20,480
so i didn't have that i was quite

2573
01:28:25,030 --> 01:28:22,719
excited but i didn't have the fear thing

2574
01:28:26,550 --> 01:28:25,040
it was i was it was more of a

2575
01:28:28,470 --> 01:28:26,560
it was more of a you know being

2576
01:28:31,830 --> 01:28:28,480
inquisitive as to what it was what could

2577
01:28:33,350 --> 01:28:31,840
it be um it's only recently this become

2578
01:28:34,550 --> 01:28:33,360
that it may have been more than i

2579
01:28:35,430 --> 01:28:34,560
thought it was

2580
01:28:36,709 --> 01:28:35,440
so

2581
01:28:39,189 --> 01:28:36,719
you know but yeah

2582
01:28:40,070 --> 01:28:39,199
i would love i would love all hate to

2583
01:28:42,149 --> 01:28:40,080
see

2584
01:28:45,110 --> 01:28:42,159
one minute close up you know because i

2585
01:28:46,229 --> 01:28:45,120
think the fear factor would be quite

2586
01:28:47,750 --> 01:28:46,239
quite visceral

2587
01:28:50,229 --> 01:28:47,760
that's well that's why i say that you

2588
01:28:51,910 --> 01:28:50,239
know everybody behind you know they oh

2589
01:28:54,390 --> 01:28:51,920
yeah i want to see one i want to see one

2590
01:28:55,590 --> 01:28:54,400
and yeah when you're actually that close

2591
01:28:56,709 --> 01:28:55,600
to one

2592
01:28:57,910 --> 01:28:56,719
you know you don't know how you're going

2593
01:28:59,910 --> 01:28:57,920
to react you don't know what it's going

2594
01:29:02,229 --> 01:28:59,920
to do to you psychologically you know

2595
01:29:04,950 --> 01:29:02,239
it's it's that just the the

2596
01:29:06,709 --> 01:29:04,960
the impact of seeing that is just

2597
01:29:08,470 --> 01:29:06,719
you know vinnie knows that's how i i

2598
01:29:10,550 --> 01:29:08,480
spoke about i told chris so you know the

2599
01:29:12,550 --> 01:29:10,560
story also but psychologically it

2600
01:29:14,550 --> 01:29:12,560
impacted me my entire life

2601
01:29:16,790 --> 01:29:14,560
you know and that's just seeing it from

2602
01:29:18,550 --> 01:29:16,800
that close now imagine this thing

2603
01:29:20,550 --> 01:29:18,560
landing and something coming out of it

2604
01:29:21,830 --> 01:29:20,560
and coming up to you forget it you'd be

2605
01:29:23,030 --> 01:29:21,840
running for the hills you wouldn't want

2606
01:29:25,270 --> 01:29:23,040
to stick around to see what this thing

2607
01:29:26,709 --> 01:29:25,280
was well at least the majority of people

2608
01:29:30,149 --> 01:29:26,719
me i'd be running towards you trying to

2609
01:29:33,910 --> 01:29:31,590
but you know it

2610
01:29:35,750 --> 01:29:33,920
most people i don't i don't think they

2611
01:29:39,910 --> 01:29:35,760
actually have

2612
01:29:40,870 --> 01:29:39,920
the the um the psychological i i guess

2613
01:29:44,229 --> 01:29:40,880
strength

2614
01:29:46,070 --> 01:29:44,239
to actually see that in real life in the

2615
01:29:47,510 --> 01:29:46,080
flesh right in front of you that's

2616
01:29:49,910 --> 01:29:47,520
that's just

2617
01:29:51,030 --> 01:29:49,920
it's it's a whole nother level like of

2618
01:29:54,310 --> 01:29:51,040
of

2619
01:29:57,750 --> 01:29:54,320
it's

2620
01:30:00,149 --> 01:29:57,760
me to explain it you just have to you

2621
01:30:02,310 --> 01:30:00,159
have to see it you know you have to wait

2622
01:30:03,830 --> 01:30:02,320
and bro i'm waiting

2623
01:30:07,430 --> 01:30:03,840
you know it's it's pretty it's

2624
01:30:10,470 --> 01:30:08,790
do you have those moments where you

2625
01:30:12,950 --> 01:30:10,480
completely disbelieve yourself when you

2626
01:30:14,950 --> 01:30:12,960
think back

2627
01:30:16,550 --> 01:30:14,960
let's put it let's say this i i tell

2628
01:30:21,350 --> 01:30:16,560
people

2629
01:30:23,669 --> 01:30:21,360
it's it's so it's so incredible when you

2630
01:30:25,910 --> 01:30:23,679
see it that you actually

2631
01:30:27,830 --> 01:30:25,920
don't believe your own eyes number one

2632
01:30:29,830 --> 01:30:27,840
and it looks like real life the only way

2633
01:30:31,110 --> 01:30:29,840
i could describe it is like

2634
01:30:34,629 --> 01:30:31,120
it looks like you're looking at real

2635
01:30:36,310 --> 01:30:34,639
life cgi that's how incredible it is

2636
01:30:37,750 --> 01:30:36,320
like that's i i can't put it in any

2637
01:30:39,590 --> 01:30:37,760
other terms it's like you're looking at

2638
01:30:42,310 --> 01:30:39,600
something that was literally

2639
01:30:45,030 --> 01:30:42,320
put there by a computer and you know the

2640
01:30:46,550 --> 01:30:45,040
way it moved was just off everything

2641
01:30:47,990 --> 01:30:46,560
about it was just like

2642
01:30:48,709 --> 01:30:48,000
what am i looking at you know what i'm

2643
01:30:51,030 --> 01:30:48,719
saying

2644
01:30:52,550 --> 01:30:51,040
so this is why i say you know people

2645
01:30:54,390 --> 01:30:52,560
think they're ready but i don't really

2646
01:30:56,550 --> 01:30:54,400
think they are maybe a handful of

2647
01:30:58,790 --> 01:30:56,560
humanity may be able to

2648
01:31:00,709 --> 01:30:58,800
you know prepare themselves and and be

2649
01:31:02,950 --> 01:31:00,719
okay with it you know but i don't think

2650
01:31:05,110 --> 01:31:02,960
the majority of people will be able to

2651
01:31:06,709 --> 01:31:05,120
handle something like that it's

2652
01:31:10,709 --> 01:31:06,719
it's pretty

2653
01:31:13,510 --> 01:31:10,719
but then why not open disclosure you

2654
01:31:15,270 --> 01:31:13,520
know is it the government's all unitedly

2655
01:31:17,030 --> 01:31:15,280
not uh admitting and i can't believe

2656
01:31:18,709 --> 01:31:17,040
that's true you know or is it all of

2657
01:31:21,430 --> 01:31:18,719
these disparate you know

2658
01:31:23,669 --> 01:31:21,440
aliens not not wanting to learn or they

2659
01:31:24,390 --> 01:31:23,679
can't we just physically can't

2660
01:31:25,830 --> 01:31:24,400
but

2661
01:31:27,270 --> 01:31:25,840
here's the thing even if even if the

2662
01:31:29,350 --> 01:31:27,280
government disclosed it right and said

2663
01:31:31,669 --> 01:31:29,360
yeah all this is real

2664
01:31:34,390 --> 01:31:31,679
you have to also think about how much

2665
01:31:37,590 --> 01:31:34,400
the what the government's done you know

2666
01:31:39,750 --> 01:31:37,600
it uh sit from them to now to cover this

2667
01:31:41,590 --> 01:31:39,760
up you know people oft

2668
01:31:43,270 --> 01:31:41,600
experiments that probably been done uh

2669
01:31:44,470 --> 01:31:43,280
you know that involve humans and stuff

2670
01:31:45,990 --> 01:31:44,480
like that a lot of other things are

2671
01:31:48,550 --> 01:31:46,000
going to come to light because you're

2672
01:31:50,629 --> 01:31:48,560
now saying okay yeah it's real so now

2673
01:31:52,709 --> 01:31:50,639
that means all these other stories that

2674
01:31:54,629 --> 01:31:52,719
you've heard may possibly be real too

2675
01:31:56,310 --> 01:31:54,639
yeah you know yeah

2676
01:31:57,830 --> 01:31:56,320
you're going to want to freaking admit

2677
01:32:01,189 --> 01:31:57,840
that you know what i'm saying it's going

2678
01:32:02,310 --> 01:32:01,199
to be a freaking pr nightmare

2679
01:32:05,189 --> 01:32:02,320
yeah yeah

2680
01:32:07,350 --> 01:32:05,199
well let's do it you know

2681
01:32:10,149 --> 01:32:07,360
your own evidence man

2682
01:32:13,510 --> 01:32:10,159
you make you bet you lie in it

2683
01:32:15,750 --> 01:32:13,520
that's so funny well listen guys

2684
01:32:17,430 --> 01:32:15,760
thank you so much man like let's do this

2685
01:32:18,870 --> 01:32:17,440
like regularly maybe once a month every

2686
01:32:20,790 --> 01:32:18,880
couple of months or something i feel i

2687
01:32:22,709 --> 01:32:20,800
feel like these conversations when

2688
01:32:24,550 --> 01:32:22,719
they're a bit more organic

2689
01:32:26,629 --> 01:32:24,560
i think people find or get a lot more

2690
01:32:28,550 --> 01:32:26,639
out of them than it's just interviews

2691
01:32:29,990 --> 01:32:28,560
and stuff like that people have been

2692
01:32:31,750 --> 01:32:30,000
messaging me going you need to do more

2693
01:32:33,590 --> 01:32:31,760
panel discussions so

2694
01:32:36,870 --> 01:32:33,600
thank you for that man i really enjoyed

2695
01:32:39,110 --> 01:32:36,880
that so um yeah man like again let's do

2696
01:32:41,030 --> 01:32:39,120
it again in the future and get dave

2697
01:32:43,110 --> 01:32:41,040
involved and other guests as well and

2698
01:32:45,110 --> 01:32:43,120
just keep switching it around and we can

2699
01:32:47,510 --> 01:32:45,120
have up to like eight or ten on these

2700
01:32:48,390 --> 01:32:47,520
stream yards so let's get it going man

2701
01:32:53,110 --> 01:32:48,400
so

2702
01:32:55,350 --> 01:32:53,120
yeah thanks nigel thank you

2703
01:32:56,629 --> 01:32:55,360
nigel thank you brother man

2704
01:32:58,629 --> 01:32:56,639
thank you guys

2705
01:33:01,510 --> 01:32:58,639
it's been fun yeah you said it would be

2706
01:33:06,310 --> 01:33:01,520
fun and it was yeah yeah yeah

2707
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:11,950
surprise videos

2708
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:21,510
[Laughter]

2709
01:33:24,870 --> 01:33:23,189
uh commented on his

2710
01:33:27,430 --> 01:33:24,880
sneaky glass of malbec and he said

2711
01:33:29,430 --> 01:33:27,440
always malbec you know so

2712
01:33:31,990 --> 01:33:29,440
that's just it's always a cheers thumbs

2713
01:33:33,669 --> 01:33:32,000
up with a glass of wine next to it yeah

2714
01:33:35,350 --> 01:33:33,679
love it man i absolutely love it well

2715
01:33:37,110 --> 01:33:35,360
actually i don't it's funny that i got

2716
01:33:39,430 --> 01:33:37,120
associated with being a drinker on

2717
01:33:41,430 --> 01:33:39,440
youtube and instagram but hey you know

2718
01:33:45,189 --> 01:33:41,440
at least it isn't just beer

2719
01:33:46,470 --> 01:33:45,199
i keep only wine i keep it classy

2720
01:33:48,390 --> 01:33:46,480
you're a classic

2721
01:33:50,709 --> 01:33:48,400
hey yeah there you go

2722
01:33:51,750 --> 01:33:50,719
it could be worse um i just want to give

2723
01:33:53,189 --> 01:33:51,760
a shout out to everyone that's been

2724
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watching live tonight as well thank you

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so much i appreciate you guys all the

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guys that question us and make us

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you know really have good debates i

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appreciate you guys as well because that

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just motivates us to keep doing what

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we're doing as well so i do appreciate

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that aspect of things as well so don't

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think that we're just against you

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because we're not

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um

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yeah

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guys thank you so much man keep in touch

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and we'll speak soon you guys thank you

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chris you guys randy it's like yeah it's